old vinnie email

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:06 am

Just going through some old emails and saw this from vinnie

Hi Dino,

Updating you on the vido catalog.

It is about three more weeks. Tom and I are working round the clock on making this one very exciting presentation, which will hopefully please everyone. There will be some surprises that are also very exciting.

AZG / PEAR will be planning a booth at the winter NAMM show in Anaheim this coming January to premier the VINNIE VINCENT MODEL GUITAR. AZG Plans are to have jamming sessions featuring Vinnie Vincnet tribute bands to perform live, in addition to holding guitar contests for the best guitarist emulating the VVincent style.

CERTIFICATES OF AUTHENTICITY:

The serial numbers for the VINNIE VINCENT MODEL will begin with 00001.
Certificates of Authenticity signed by VV will accompany each model for a certain period of time.
Preordering will be available through AZG / PEAR who will provide ordering information on the forum. No serial number will be duplicative. In order words, once 00001 is purchased, there will not be another serial number containing the same digits. Essentially, whoever wants the first one, should act quickly once the preordering information is posted.

FORUM: MEMBERS ONLY.

I would like to keep the board available to members only. Lets try again to inform the fans that all are welcome to join but because of the new activity, the board will stay a members only forum until further notice. All members are free to post and all are welcome.

FORUM:

I have noticed a lot of controversy on the board lately. It was actually getting quite interesting. I would have given more time to let the Vinnie saves Kiss support brew a bit longer. I review the board regularly, so if something does not comport with the proper protocol, I delete it immediately. However, I did not delete this last posting because of the Vinnie support become evidently quite passionate and I wanted to see where it was going.

COMIC BOOK RELATED:

What is happening with Quentin and the artwok renderings. I haven't heard an update from you regarding Quentin in some time now. I would lke to finalize this one way or another. OK?

RECORDINGS AND RELEASES:

The recordings are being reviewed. It is a long process given the extent of the amount of mateial and different takes, versions, etc.

I can promise some wonderful surprises in this area as well. Patience is required.

POSTINGS:

Lastly, I have noticed the last posting was 5/20/10. Have you deleted any postings since this date?

Still working on your package. I know it is abhorently late, but please bear with me.

Keep me updated asap. My best V

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:08 am

The topic i deleted was because it got pretty anti semitic about kiss . I also had some complaints.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:57 am

Comic book related? What's that?

youngnwasted · Post by **youngnwasted** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:19 am

I like the OK? part. He always throws that in.

youngnwasted · Post by **youngnwasted** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:28 am

Well since I've already violated his trust. This is a week ago today.
Dear James,

Here is an email sent by Jessica.

It seems that You have disclosed to her private and confidential matters regarding shirt sales and new music that I told you in confidence with permission given to me by Mr. Vincent.

If Jessica had any questions, you should have referred her to me and I would have answered her on behalf of the company.

You're a big boy and I don't have to tell you that news of this will most definitely get to hate groups who, in my opinion are entirely responsible for sabotaging Mr. Vincent's career. God knows how many others you've disclosed this information to. But frankly all it takes is one individual to make something viral and I know that you are aware of this.

You have betrayed and violated my trust in you and to say I'm gravely disappointed in you is a gross understatement.

I don't even want to repeat Mr. Vincent's feelings about this. He asks that you delete immediately all images of the shirts I sent to you.

Meredith

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:33 am

Cusano... er, uh Meredith in his basement with James, Dino, Rick and the hate forum in mind:

youngnwasted · Post by **youngnwasted** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:54 am

Crazy Lady. All this craziness would be enough to inspire a movie.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:29 am

He was planning a comic. The guy working on it was a member here but he took so long I thinkIit was a huge mistake me mentioning it to vv in first place. If you get involved in any of vv's business things you are doomed. I was getting the longest emails you could imagine from the guy drawing the comics that I would have had to quit workto be able to read them all. Vinnie wwouldn't speak directly to him so I had to pass on messages between them. It was driving me crazy and I am certain the beginning of the end. Vv booted me and him at same time.

As you can see vv writes as vv and it's in same line as meredith

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:37 am

The email from meredith is typical vv. You work happilyfor nothing and then one thing he doesn't like you finished and number one enemy. Mostly it's nothing. In my case he said I didn't help him one day on board even though I told him I was busy.
Funny he said fans here ruined his career. Well we only speak truth so truth has killed his career.

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:09 am

Yes, Vinnie has done a brilliant job all on his own in sabotaging his career. We could never take credit for that.

Heck, we weren't around like this in the 80's when he was going behind the backs of Labels and Guitar companies. Signing deals but whoring himself out to the highest bidder and losing it all.

Sure, as a teenager I would have helped him out, but shit, he did ok without me or anyone else.

Maybe Meredith helped him ruin his career back in the day? Strange how they are still such good friends, they have always stuck by each other.

Not like that Spyder/Eric/whatever guy. Some best friend of Vinnie's he turned out to be, the fucker is long gone, he's not helping resurrect Vinnie's career anymore.

Meredith for the win!!! I hear she basically slaves for Vinnie 24x7, keeping Department A running day and night. No wonder his business ventures are so successful.....hey, wait........?

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:30 am

Yes i think his career was wrecked by 1996 but he never had a huge career on his own.
As for recent career issues I think 11 thousand for a guitar, 500 for forum membership and 75 bucks for a t shirt didn't need any help from us to not make it work.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:33 am

Oh and lies about dad's , ranting about fake vv's on youtube, stealing from fans re boxset, booting close to 1000 fans of forum and lying about departments in fictitious warehouses is also a good start for a big flop.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:38 am

Vinnie counts the grains of sand and doesn't see the beach. If you know what I mean.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:52 am

I always thought the term "unethical behavior" sounded stupid coming from Gene but now I completely see why he described VV that way.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:54 am

doublev2 wrote:Vinnie counts the grains of sand and doesn't see the beach. If you know what I mean.

Smyrna has an ocean?

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:57 am

PinkWiz wrote:
doublev2 wrote:Vinnie counts the grains of sand and doesn't see the beach. If you know what I mean.
Smyrna has an ocean?

A sea of despair . A sea of disrepair.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:00 am

He is famous for septic tank issues in the neighbourhood. What gene and Paul say re vinnie is all true.

1031 · Post by **1031** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:31 am

All artist have their detractors and they seem to be able to marshall on successfully and unaffected. His continued use of characters to speak through is beyond strange, everyone pretty much knows they are him.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:36 am

I wonder who he thinks he is fooling?

ankh · Post by **ankh** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:15 pm

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doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:05 pm

Hi ankh.

The comic was all about vv raising out of ashes after being put down for too long... corny old shit.

In my opinion vv had to be more real more quirky but no vv had to be god like figure

funny thing as soon as images vv liked they all came back with tm vinnie vincent even though the poor dude wasn't getting paid a dime.

They spoke a bit later and tried to gang up on me like it was my fault... I was the one that mentioned the idea to vv so I can not understand how I would sabotage something I started and worked for nothing on and the endless bs emails passing back and forward.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:07 pm

Vv was going to have comic in fan club pack which from my understanding was going to cost between 500 and 1000 for a year membership.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:10 pm

I will post the posts i deleted that he refers too. Talking about taking a machete to gene simmons . Funny enough spyder on dv private member board mentioned taking a machete to Paul and gene if they don't pay vv his money from the lick it up tour.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:12 pm

I also have an email from when i gave him vinnie vincent. Com for free that Iif after one year it was not used for fan site that it would be returned to me. Also have it in a taped phone call so when back in states i will start to get it back even though i don't want it rick may be able to use it.

Streetbeat · Post by **Streetbeat** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:53 pm

Meredith ......Meredith, why he keeps hiding under fake names???

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:25 am

One of two reasons. He either wants to swindle people or he feels it's not professional communicating himself.
I find it funny she calls him boss.. i should ask irs to incestigate her salary.
Also funny she makes out vv will be mad.
I assure you anyone who works with vv or plays in a band will end up the same way. No way on earth coukd vv tour with a band again.

Streetbeat · Post by **Streetbeat** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:41 am

He wants to portrait himself like a 80's very succesful rockstar who "made it" with a big team who backs up ..etc like the old days and out of reach for normal people & fans.
Same reason he still show old pictures and use the 1990 wig for the mugshot.

But we know the truth, we even have a live cam there.

ankh · Post by **ankh** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:32 am

people believing their own hyope ended up like this:

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and:
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hopefully,Vinnie is smart and will avoid that trap..........at least i hope he's playng for his own enjoyment.What i find sad is that sometimes trouble starts by itself and makes things worse,without any active involvement by anyone else............much more so than with G&P, his fans wanted to help him make a comeback and prove everybody wrong,only to found tehmselves in a postion of dubious privelege,being pointed out as lunactis by other kiss fans, and hated and blamed for by their own star....
as much as i've intervened on other forums-and many others did too- to protest when things went out of hand-especially about his private life- often there were times where-because of evidence- there was nothing to be done,in his difense.

Hope he's happy................

MatthewF · Post by **MatthewF** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:37 am

doublev2 wrote:He is famous for septic tank issues in the neighbourhood. What gene and Paul say re vinnie is all true.

Does he eat a lot of barbeque or something?

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:07 am

MatthewF wrote: Does he eat a lot of barbeque or something?

Not sure but he does eat a lot of his own bullshit though.

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:56 am

youngnwasted wrote:Well since I've already violated his trust. This is a week ago today.
Dear James,

Here is an email sent by Jessica.

It seems that You have disclosed to her private and confidential matters regarding shirt sales and new music that I told you in confidence with permission given to me by Mr. Vincent.

If Jessica had any questions, you should have referred her to me and I would have answered her on behalf of the company.

You're a big boy and I don't have to tell you that news of this will most definitely get to hate groups who, in my opinion are entirely responsible for sabotaging Mr. Vincent's career. God knows how many others you've disclosed this information to. But frankly all it takes is one individual to make something viral and I know that you are aware of this.

You have betrayed and violated my trust in you and to say I'm gravely disappointed in you is a gross understatement.

I don't even want to repeat Mr. Vincent's feelings about this. He asks that you delete immediately all images of the shirts I sent to you.

Meredith

My sympathies that you were threatened and accused by a false identity for answering the questions of a customer. You have my support in openly communicating information to a loyal customer and in exposing this behavior which doesn't belong in business.

Just know, nobody should be disappointed. You did the right thing. Kudos.

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:32 am

I wish to apologize to the members of this forum. I was treated as Vinnie Vincent, due to these fake identities (he's doing this of his own freewill, multiple personality disorder has been disproven by skeptics). By pure coincidence I was a woman and a business major. Vinnie happens to create female identities for his business practices. Coincidence is harder to embrace than distrust. I was called Vinnie Vincent straight off the internet without any foreknowledge of his deceptions. If Vinnie were told by the first fan I met off the VVFF to suck his ****, it would be an expression of his feelings of anger toward Vinnie. From my own perception, I am a woman. Now I know Vinnie Vincent wasn't scapegoated and I wasn't lied to. My apologies.

Everything Vinnie is doing in his business affairs are huge no-nos in all the textbooks I have studied. I want Vinnie to know Gene was being helpful by suggesting he is self-destructive. It was not personal. Vinnie could read the same wisdom in a book of microeconomics. You cannot charge whatever you want unless you have a monopoly on power lines like the utility company or a monopoly on the last glass of water on a desert island. I just explained the equation MC=MR. Marginal cost=marginal revenue. Keep your costs low and your revenue reasonable. Customers' resources aren't unlimited, either. Something my economics teacher pointed out to me about Mick Jagger. She played a video the first of day of class, "you can't always get what you want" by the Rolling Stones. She explained the reason. You see, Mick Jagger was formerly an economics major at the London School of Economics (LSE), and he based that song on the first principle of economics (scarcity). "You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime you might find....you'll get what you need".

Basically, Vinnie needs to expand his thinking to consider others to succeed. I doubt anyone wants Vinnie to fail. Nobody wants to deprive the world of his talent. There's a wall of lies and greed between VV and the world. That's his struggle to tear it down.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:50 am

McDonald's sells burgers for under $1.00 for many years... ...SELLS BILLIONS.
That very same burger would not sell a million units if sold for $2.00 .

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:53 am

poserboy71 wrote:McDonald's sells burgers for under $1.00 for many years... ...SELLS BILLIONS.
That very same burger would not sell a million units if sold for $2.00 .

Bingo.

Post by **Genebaby** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:07 am

How many would they sell of it was $1000, per burger?

Vinnie doesn't seem to understand that high prices (and a lack of consumer confidence) = low or no sales.

I'm not sure how many expressions of interest there were for the t-shirts but not one guitar has sold.

No sales = no profits = no $$$ for Vinnie.

There has never been a better time to make everything better with fans and the world in general.

Start changing the world's perception to "hey, that Vinnie is a cool and talented guy."

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:18 am

Yes, great points KMA, Rick & Vic!

Though to be honest, Vinnie's products are tasty, unlike McDonald's!

Post by **Genebaby** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:37 am

Hey, Macca's is OK, don't diss Ronald's place.

Actually there were about 12 shirt orders, so on the very low side, as would be expected.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:51 pm

Only thing i like about burgers are the color.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:30 pm

doublev2 wrote:Only thing i like about burgers are the color.

Pink?????

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:51 pm

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:27 am

On reflection, that was most rude of me.

Buttocks......

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:59 am

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:49 pm

Agreed, Yes, great points KMA, Rick & Vic!
& Rick, yep, the 99 cent burgers win over everything every time.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:26 pm

Not with this little black duck!

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:59 pm

shramiac wrote:Not with this little black duck!

I'm talking for the masses.
The sleepeople are easily lead.