Since we have started talking about this technique, let's share our favorite examples and try to find the earliest example we can.
Who originated this technique? Was it Hendrix, Beck, Townshend, Gillis, Vai ?
My favorite flutters :
The VVI discs had great moments in fluttered history
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At the very end of the song----
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER
Ashes to Ashes when Vinnie plays the descending whole tone scale flutters at the end of the solo!
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That’s right, I should have said on studio albums. Maybe Gene and Paul didn’t like it ? I think Gene would have loved a Vinnie flutter on « Fits like a glove » for example, when he says « It’s just like a hot knife - FLUTTER- through… ». Flutter sounds so wild...by shramiac » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:10 am
tukoztukoz wrote:
It seems he didn’t flutter with Kiss and before Kiss
There is live footage from the LIU tour where Vinnie is doing it during his solo! Gillis and Vai are best known for it though.
Not surprised at all if Beck was doing it though. In the movie Twins, he is in the house band at a club (Arnie, "But you're forgetting the second rule of combat"!) and he has a little flutter during the solo whilst playing a Strat....what he recorded the song with in the studio though...who knows?
Did Vinnie use this technique live on Creatures tour? Not sure.
About the movie Twins, I've read that one of the two twins is named "Vincent"
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They said the movie came out in 1988. I don't know every Jeff Beck record, but I remember hearing flutter in "Flash" 1985 and Mick Jagger's "Primitive Cool" 1987. I've read somewhere on this forum that Jeff Beck ordered one of the first twenty Jackson. Maybe he developped his technique with that guitar, until Fender designed the new two point trem a few years later?
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This here is a good example of this technique, did not know it was called FLUTTER, always call the Whammy bar technique hahaha.
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Steve stevens uses a similar technique in the video, it's very complicated to do, need a good floyd rose.
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Steve stevens uses a similar technique in the video, it's very complicated to do, need a good floyd rose.
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I thought there was no flutter on the Lick it up album. I was wrong, Vinnie uses it at 2.09 on Gimme more for example, and on other songs too (I listened to that great record today...).
Nice pictures here on this video...
I thought there was no flutter on the Lick it up album. I was wrong, Vinnie uses it at 2.09 on Gimme more for example, and on other songs too (I listened to that great record today...).
Nice pictures here on this video...
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER
TT, I am not sure if the example at 2:09 is truly a flutter. It just sounds like some quick Vinnie whammy damage.
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER
No, it is flutter.
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It's less obvious than on Animal, it's true. Maybe the '83 trem he used was tired and didn't flutter a lot, like some Fender Jazzmaster with a floating trem (flutters, but very discretly).
Too bad Vinnie doesn't talk about this directly...
Too bad Vinnie doesn't talk about this directly...
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See at 1.30. Brad Gillis tells about how he discovered flutter. Brlrphh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovVk9Ataeh4
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