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Dear Dino

Postby Lil' Jack Horny » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:20 pm

What kind of pups did Vinnie have in his white and gold Washburn?
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby shramiac » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:00 pm

This is as much info as we've got LJH! Duncan Distortions or Super 2s are the best bet!

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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:56 pm

I am not really the guy to ask but what vv said is he used duncan paf's .. not sure the name of the duncan models in the late 80s. He switched from emg because he liked the paf sound. I think he said he did miss the hotness of the emgs a little but obviously not enough to choose them over duncsns.
In the new versions he used lynch model duncans which are a hot paf so I am told.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:05 pm

This not fact just calculated guess from a jigsaw of information but its more than possible that vv used an rr v for firsr vvi album. If not all for sure rhythm parts. He may have not even taken delivery of his vv model until after the album was made. One report was that vv actually liked the sound of his rr v for rhythm work over the vv model. Its also more than likely asg was recorded with duncan pafs and not emgs but again its calculated guess work.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:12 pm

Also vv had said his carvin played the best of all his 80s guitars and he didnt care for the ibanez . I have seen pictures of him recording gfh with the the washburn so he must have liked it but I did hear reports that the washburn wasnt to his liking either but again its just reports from different people.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby Lil' Jack Horny » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:18 am

I've seen the same pictures from GFH sessions provided by Andre LaBelle on Facebook of the engineer with Vinnie's Washburn. It was also to my understanding that the current consensus was that they were Duncan PAF's. Maybe I'm just too young to be able to tell the difference, but what is the difference between a PAF sound and just a regular pickup sound, like, for example, a Duncan JB or Dimarzio Super Distortion.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:17 am

I suppose its closee to a late 50s les paul than some of the others to state the obvious .. others are better for this than me.. but I am guessing it has that classic tone .
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Postby doublev2 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:21 am

I suppose its like having a new car with a vintage engine installed . You get a modern look with an old hairy chested sounding engine.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby Possio » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:15 pm

Duncan "Custom" and "Custom-Custom" I would say fall within the PAF´s category.
Duncan JB and Distortion are hotter pickups with somewhat less definition, less of a "PAF"..
in my opinion anyway... Who knows what was used...Duncan 59 is too weak for hard rock, better for blues.
Ive had them all. haha..
Id say you´d get pretty close rythm-wise with a Duncan "Custom" and a mega cranked Marshall from that era. late 80ties. perhaps a boost pedal/eq here or there if you find somethings lacking, but usually at the expense of the "true sound" so to speak, from the guitar. Hot pickup are cool but tend to mush things up, so, the RocknRoll and "string" in the sound gets lost.

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Re: Dear Dino

Postby ankh » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:14 am

I've seen the same pictures from GFH sessions provided by Andre LaBelle on Facebook of the engineer with Vinnie's Washburn. It was also to my understanding that the current consensus was that they were Duncan PAF's. Maybe I'm just too young to be able to tell the difference, but what is the difference between a PAF sound and just a regular pickup sound, like, for example, a Duncan JB or Dimarzio Super Distortion.
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Pafs have a different eq curve and,basically were the blue print for the other models born afterwards.It is a matter of preference about materila- some of the ones you've mentioned are made with ceramic magnets instead of Alnico,and this already makes quite a difference- output,eq and attack.Some people like hotter output pickups for rock and metal, but sometimes such pickups aren't great for play clean.Also,often high output pickups give a muddy sound when there's too much disrtortion.Lower output pickups need an extra kick to push the amp into overdrive but you get a lot of clarity.

For example, Zakk Wylde did state that paf's are great for rock blues, but when you play through distortion and platy fast 16th notes, you need the clarity of EMG's .(don't forget that also he uses different ouput tansformers and EV speakers in his marshalls)

Ace has used both the super distortion and also the JB.Bruce liked the JB as many rock players do.The super distortion was designed to help push the older amps into the crunch/overdrive area

For me, the difference is also in the attack of the note, the dimarzio-in painting with broad strokes,here- seems to have more attack.Personally,i prefer the Duncan's.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:51 pm

I loved the 80s schaeller pick ups too. Like a mix of emg and paf
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby ankh » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:49 pm

the schaller golden 50 was rumoured to be one of the best PAF around.Even MIcheal Schenker made a blind test with many humbuckers iftted into one of his guitars aand the best one for him was the shaller.

I'm also very fond of the Shadow eq 5 pickup.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:20 pm

Yeah. They are such underated . Nitros ofr was all schaller pick ups too.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:28 pm

I think this is drews but like most ritz guitars they had great schaller pickups. I dont know what model they were without asking wayne charvel but maybe similar to shadow ones.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:17 pm

I was told that vv had a real vintage paf in his rr v in kiss.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby PinkWiz » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:24 pm


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Re: Dear Dino

Postby doublev2 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:00 pm

Thats owned by a vvforums member.
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby shramiac » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:21 pm

Thats owned by a vvforums member.
Yeah but that's the only guitar he owns though! :P :P :P
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Re: Dear Dino

Postby poserboy71 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:02 am

I actually got to play one of the Ritz Rockets(as well as the circuit board DOUBLE GUITAR) when I followed Nitro around for a few shows. Michael and his tech , Wally, were ultra cool. :D
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