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Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:20 am
by shramiac
There's been some debate over the years that Vinnie had Fernandes built Floyds on his some of guitars. I fired off an email to Fernandes to see what could info be attained!

Hi Andrew,

Yes, I believe the FST-95 from 1983 had a nft floyd, catalog photo
attached.

For your reference, you can access all the Fernandes Japan previous
catalogs here:
http://www.fernandes.co.jp/others/catalog/list.html

Best,
--
Andres
Tech Support
FERNANDES/HIWATT USA

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On 4/5/12 1:08 AM, "Andrew" <xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.fernandesguitars.com/ from:
>Andrew <xxxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com>
>
>Hi, Andrew here from http://www.vvforums.com. I've got a doozy of a question and
>a blast from the past!
>Vinnie Vincent! Its rumoured that Vinnie used a Fernandes non fine tuner
>Floyd (nft) on some of his guitars!
>Did Fernandes ever make a nft Floyd?
>So little is known about his gear and manufacturers are a dead end when
>trying to get any info on Vinnie! He may have burnt a few bridges (no pun)
>over the years sadly!
>Thanks for your time.
>Andrew.

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:39 am
by shramiac
The catalogues are in Japanese unfortunately so it makes reading difficult! :lol: Also the resolution isn't the best either so trying to get detail from the pictures is a little hard too!

The attachment he sent showed an original nft Floyd and a Frenandes "Head Banker" which looked just like an nft Floyd BUT, it appears the strings are rear fed like a Fender trem????? For some reason the attachment looks good on my iPhone but terrible when I save to PC?????? That's why it's not here.

Good news is that if you check out the 1982 Fernandes catalogue with the red Chevy and go to page 10, you'll see 2 versions of an nft Floyd, the FRT1 and FRT2! Now I'm only guessing but judging by the price difference, maybe the FRT1 is an original Floyd and the 2 is the equivilent Fernandes made model???? Shame the resolution is so low and you can't blow them up to get more detail.

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:20 am
by shramiac
Edit to my last post: (ignore the last sentence I wrote)


Zooming in on the Fernandes pictures doesn't seem to reveal any names stamped on either versions though! The resolution isn't the best.

The Wasburn definitely has Floyd Rose stamped on it but I can't make out the stamping (if there are any) on his other VVV guitars? The Rhoads says Floyd though.

So maybe we have a match?????

On a side note, were Fernandes ever sued by other maufacturers or artists? The Neil Schon, Dave Murray, Ritchie Blackmore etc models???????? The BC Rich clones?????? :lol:

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:40 pm
by poserboy71
shramiac wrote:
On a side note, were Fernandes ever sued by other maufacturers or artists? The Neil Schon, Dave Murray, Ritchie Blackmore etc models???????? The BC Rich clones?????? :lol:
I saw those and was amazed. :o :o :o :o :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: That is the kind of shit I'm into. I would love to have those knock-offs !!!! :D :D :D :D

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:57 pm
by shramiac
Here's some info on the knock-offs. They should have made a VVV! :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.guitarnerd.com.au/?p=3

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:16 pm
by shramiac
Ah ha!!!

So the clever boffins that worked out that Vinnie's Floyds were Fernandes made may indeed be correct! A simple search and look what I found!

http://www.wa.commufa.jp/shinegt/floydrose.html

You'll have to use Google translator or similar but the FRT 3 was made by Fernandes but stamped with Floyd Rose!!!

How bout that???!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:06 pm
by doublev2
Image

Is this what vv uses ?

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:16 pm
by doublev2
Image

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:43 pm
by shramiac
doublev2 wrote:Image

Is this what vv uses ?

That one is on the first Jackson VVV.

The one on the Washburn is different though. It's saddles have the string grooves and the nut on the string clamp bolt is not there either.

Pardon my french but, FUCK THAT WASHBURN LOOKS AWESOME!!!!!

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:15 am
by doublev2
i heard vv did not favour the washburn. however the photos from the GFH recording he was using it. I heard he liked the carvin the best. but this is all just what i heard.

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:18 am
by doublev2
so who made the washburn floyd?

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:45 am
by metatron
Great work shramiac. You'z is da Floyd Rose man.

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:49 am
by shramiac
Nah! Was just bored one day!!! Actually got an email back from Floyd themselves about re-introducing the nft but they ain't interested!

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:54 am
by shramiac
doublev2 wrote:so who made the washburn floyd?
Image

Guess they were German made Schaller's then?

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:46 pm
by doublev2
That looks like it doesn't it?

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:31 am
by Sandimas
Yes, the Washburn Floyd is a Schaller, unusual in being gold plated.

The Floyds on his Jacksons were the Fernandes ones.

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:37 pm
by doublev2
Is it the German one on his carvin?

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:49 pm
by shramiac
Me guess would be yes!

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:07 pm
by doublev2
Do they have an Albanian made Floyd?

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:40 pm
by shramiac
Yes! The Floooyyenz Rochendizch!

Re: Fernandes Floyd Rose

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:13 am
by doublev2
Good , i will put it on my Albanian guitar.