Vinnie's guitars - where are they?

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:36 pm

So Vinnie had a few Jacksons, a Carvin, a Washburn, an Ibanez and of course a Pear.

Where are these guitars now? What does Vinnie have left?

I heard ages ago that Vinnie didn't have much of his old VVV collection but I've not seen these guitars so they seem to be hiding.

Anybody got any clues or ideas?

teej · Post by **teej** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:44 am

they are probably sat propped against the wall nxt to the wigs, GFH and the archives tapes .. wasting away to nothing like the Â´manÂ´himself

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:46 am

teej wrote:they are probably sat propped against the wall nxt to the wigs, GFH and the archives tapes .. wasting away to nothing like the Â´manÂ´himself

I feeling the love Teej

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:32 am

LMAO WITH TEEJ!

Post by **Genebaby** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:04 am

Think about it. In 96 for the Euphoria press confernce he had only the pink Rhoads with one pickup as used at Expos at he time.

Where is the guitar on the CD front cover?

Is there even a picture of him holding/using the Pear?

I'm serious, where did they go?

I want one!!

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:19 am

Ok, I fuss you. ahhhhhhh I got them

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:19 am

NOT!

teej · Post by **teej** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:35 pm

you can have mine for a price hahahaha

Post by **Genebaby** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:17 pm

Oooh, lucky I don't have any money!!!!!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:04 pm

It's hard to believe that Vinnie gave David Snowden the PROTOTYPE Randy Rhoads model that Randy and Grover worked on . It's hard to believe that Grover initially gave it to Vinnie. Not seeing the guitar also stirs up speculation being that Vinnie's money issues could've been SOLVED with that guitar !!!

Is David Snowden cool enough to show us that guitar ? It should be in a museum(The tentative Randy Rhoads museum ) OR at the Jackson Guitars main office being displayed proudly as the TEMPLATE for the company !!!

Post by **Genebaby** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:25 am

Jackson the company is very different now than the one who made that guitar so I wouldn't want them to have it. Fender have done some good things as owners and some crappy things.

Clearly by 96 Vinnie didn't have a VVV guitar to use.

I don't know of any Jackson collectors with an ex Vinnie owned VVV in their collection, these guitars must be somewhere.

Did Vinnie sell them to some fans we don't know about?

Post by **Streetbeat** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:41 am

Genebaby wrote:Jackson the company is very different now than the one who made that guitar so I wouldn't want them to have it. Fender have done some good things as owners and some crappy things.

Clearly by 96 Vinnie didn't have a VVV guitar to use.

I don't know of any Jackson collectors with an ex Vinnie owned VVV in their collection, these guitars must be somewhere.

Did Vinnie sell them to some fans we don't know about?

i heard that Richie Ranno bought a lot of stuff from Vinnie to later sell
this stuff on ebay

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:48 am

Well Drew the Deleted (Full Shred/ VVV) runs into Richie Ranno a lot. Somebody get a hold of Drew and have him to grill Ranno.

-PB71-

Post by **Genebaby** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:52 am

I bought some signed VVI cd's from Ritchie last week! He doesn't want to say anything at the moment.

There are quite a few guitars missing, Vinnie doesn't seem to even have left one for himself.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:43 am

Genebaby wrote:I bought some signed VVI cd's from Ritchie last week! He doesn't want to say anything at the moment.

There are quite a few guitars missing, Vinnie doesn't seem to even have left one for himself.

How do we know this? from a good source?

Post by **Genebaby** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:31 am

I am just speculating due to the fact that from what little we've seen of Vinnie he's never had a cool guitar in his hands since the 80's.

I had heard a long time ago that Vinnie didn't have them but that was just something I heard.

From the 90's on the only guitar he's been seen with is the pink Rhoads that I can recall.

teej · Post by **teej** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:13 pm

Tom Paleckie (or whatever is spelled) stated on the dubv forum he sent VV the guitar he built for him .. I dont have the pix of it in itÂ´s case .. but guitars dont vanish .. I recall Ace talking about a bunch of guitars he had in storage in some warehouse in NYC .. possibly the same with VVÂ´s stuff .. shame heÂ´s too much of a pussy to discuss further

Post by **Genebaby** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:33 pm

You have to wonder why he would not bring out the VVV shown on the EP cover at the press conference.

Makes me think he didn't have it available.

Hey, maybe they went in the bankruptcy case(s)?

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:13 pm

They're probably with the Arc of the Covenant in that big warehouse!

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:56 pm

Here is a pic I took of my AZG Pear VVV

(ah gotcha

) I have no idea where I got this Picture of the AZG Pear from, but here it is. Even the case looks cool. F**ken 'urban myth guitar' is driving us insane LOL.

doublev · Post by **doublev** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:58 am

I believe he has all his guitars , just can not say so for legal reasons due to bankruptcy. Could you imagine how much he would try to sell those for.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:27 am

I agree with Dino. Vinnie still has them.

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:29 am

I guess they should have been gone due to bankruptcy, so I suppose if he does have them they'll be laying low....seems logical.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:02 am

Even if you're desperate,you don't get rid of a perfectly good Jackson guitar. The only chance we may get to see those guitars is when Vinnie is out of debt. The sooner he releases product ,the better for everyone.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:41 am

In the Guitar World (Vai and Sheehan cover) article for the first album,it said Vinnie owns six Rhoads V's. Three of them were made for Randy. I asked Randy's brother about this and he said it was NOT true.

Post by **Genebaby** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:55 am

I'd like to see that article Rick.......

Vinnie was the first person to use the Rhoads in the market place. I don't think he got any of Randy's guitars.

Randy had the White Concord, then the black/brass one was delivered and he used that a bit.

There was one other guitar being built for Randy at the time of his passing which became the template for the case manufacturer and was left unfinished for a long time.

A few years ago now the guitar was purchased and finished and it belongs to a JCF (Jackson/Charvel Forum) member.

Then there was a white guitar that was sold my accident at a busy NAMM which also resurfaced a few years ago.

No other guitars were on the cards for Randy, he died too soon.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:05 am

Check out

http://www.randyrhoads.tk/

For all the answers about the Rhoads V. Click on "Randy's 3rd Jackson" and all will be revealed. There's a scummy guy called shramiac on that board too

. Also on that board if you search, there is a photo of what people thought was the 3rd model (a black one with a fender style trem) which is the one I ask about and that question gets answered too! Basically, Vinnie got the 5th, 6th & 7th Rhoads made. BUT, he was still the first guy to commercially use them besides Randy.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:11 am

D'OH! Click on General Rhoads Talk first! Then Randy's 3rd guitar!

Possio · Post by **Possio** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:06 pm

I remember an instance where the guitarist for the "Stone Roses" brit pop/rock band, Manchester, ( Teej may remember?) lost his 59 Les Paul,
and were talking bout a real 59 here, in a case with the record company.
It was in the contract that the Rec Company (who forked over a lot of dow
as an advance to the band) could recoup a lot of the band members assets (incl guitars) if the band was in "breach of contract" ,as in: breaking up before
all records/CdÂ´s obligations etc were fulfilled.

So, If I was Mr C, naturally IÂ´d hide anything precious from the evil powers
of a bancrupcy case. I mean, if they tell you that you "owe" the label like $500.000 dollars or whatever a few of your old precious guitars is not gonna
make a huge diffence. So, I do the same thing: tuck Ã©m away. But, thatÂ´s just me...../

Post by **Genebaby** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:08 pm

Yes, that does make sense....but it's a situation where you can't openly use and enjoy them. Like people with stolen artwork, keeping them hidden in private collections cause they can't tell the world they have them. Sad.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:42 am

Sounds similar to something that one of our favorite guitar players must be doing. Wouldn't it be great to see recent pictures of certain guitars?

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:06 am

I am guessing that won't happen any time soon. He may show off some new ones, if he ever does a new photoshoot and interview.

saintandsinner · Post by **saintandsinner** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:18 pm

Hi all new here and longtime vinnie fan.I remember reading an article in a magazine in the 80s where vinnie stated that he went through guitars alot because he was always breaking them.That he had thrown one of the double vs into a wall at the studio because it would not stay in tune.God if I only had one of those jacksons he had I would baby that thing more than my wife..

doublev · Post by **doublev** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:31 pm

Hi. Welcome.
I think most stuff said in the 80s by vvi was for effect to seem cool to the kids. I suspect all of it as not true including breaking guitars etc.

saintandsinner · Post by **saintandsinner** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:39 pm

Notice though that the pink rhoads he was using at the convention was signed by him on the front so im sure he no longer has that either and sold it while he was there.He has a history of selling off his gear from what i have been told...

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:02 pm

Vinnie reportedly peed on a guitar, Robert has said this. Clearly he wasn't being too careful with them.

To a pro muso, guitars are just tools.

Sandimas · Post by **Sandimas** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:17 am

The pink convention Rhoads seems to be what ended up in Cardiff Hard Rock, and it also has some hallmarks of being the Gold/later pink one. The refinished headstock probably came about when the point needed repaired same time as the whole guitar was refinished. Reason for believing it's the same guitar is the pearl inlays gave the same dark/light areas and the headstock has holes leftover from the Floyd retainer bar.

doublev · Post by **doublev** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:08 am

but what about the controls. they look to be different?

By the way that picture of the Pear in the case was posted on pyro's old board by Tom himself.

doublev · Post by **doublev** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:09 am

Bobby also said that peeing story was true.

Sandimas · Post by **Sandimas** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:36 am

The controls, pickguard, trem and pickups are all things that can be changed and you have to remove them all to repaint the guitar. Other things I'd like to check on the Cardiff guitar are the heel strap button position and the tuners, both of which may reveal more about the guitars origins.

doublev · Post by **doublev** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:16 am

i go back to cardiff at the end of the week and i'll bring a better camera with a flash too.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:28 pm

Dino, The manager said that you could take the guitar off the wall. Call in advance and have them take it down and put into a room where you can take a lot of proper pictures of it.

Rick

saintandsinner · Post by **saintandsinner** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:08 pm

I am going to pee on one my guitars now

Post by **Genebaby** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:26 pm

saintandsinner wrote:I am going to pee on one my guitars now

I'm sure the article had a disclaimer on it, "Kids, don't try this at home"......

doublev · Post by **doublev** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:08 pm

Okay, I will ask if I can take it down. I wish an expert lived near and I would go with them. Does anyoe knows w from the Jackson forums if a good guy lives in Wales or Bristol areas?

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:57 pm

Genebaby wrote:I'd like to see that article Rick.......

Vinnie was the first person to use the Rhoads in the market place. I don't think he got any of Randy's guitars.

Randy had the White Concord, then the black/brass one was delivered and he used that a bit.

There was one other guitar being built for Randy at the time of his passing which became the template for the case manufacturer and was left unfinished for a long time.

A few years ago now the guitar was purchased and finished and it belongs to a JCF (Jackson/Charvel Forum) member.

Then there was a white guitar that was sold my accident at a busy NAMM which also resurfaced a few years ago.

No other guitars were on the cards for Randy, he died too soon.

Here you go Baby!

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... an0002.jpg

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... an0003.jpg

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss27 ... an0004.jpg

I've still got all the interviews on photobucket that I posted on the old board if anyone wants me to repost here let me know.

doublev · Post by **doublev** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:38 pm

nice, but the first mistake.,, vinnie was not a brooklyn native. All these articles are full of errors.

doublev · Post by **doublev** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:50 pm

also he was married the whole time so i wonder what he is talking about pissing girlfriends off. I think most stuff in the 80s was for effect and not truth.

If he had 6 Rhoads V's then it could be believed the Cardiff one is one of them.

I know of the two reverse inlay ones, the white and the black one plus the pink one in the lick it up video with the normal jackson inlays. That makes 5 so the Cardiff one could be the 6th if its not the ones in the picture. However i remember a picture of VV after he left Kiss at NAMM with a pink Rhoads with student neck so that may have been the 6th unless it was just picked up from the jackson booth.

Post by **Genebaby** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:51 pm

I think the talk of girls is just typical posturing, and maybe to ward off any gay rumours, lol....

How well documented was his marriage? He even had the girls then.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:31 am

Shram, Thanks for putting that up. It's difficult for me to do so... Please post that(as well as the other stuff you have) in the interview section .

Saint, I actually peed on one of my guitars in the late 1980's after reading that article about Vinnie.I poured motor oil on it, threw it in the dirt, lit it on fire,etc... I still have the guitar.