Genebaby wrote:Eddie, we like everybody here, but there's no need to try and convince us VVI were a mega band. t.
Thanks Eddie
GeneBaby--who is trying to convince anyone VVI was a Mega Band?
Just pointing out the reality of things as they stood back then.
Megaband would mean selling more than two albums at least--multiplatinum. Also, mean several sold out arena tours.
There's plenty of forgotten bands who went gold during the 80s. Would you all them mega bands?
VVI had a fan base of around 400K or so. Give or take. Do you consider that huge?
ASG had the potential to be a platinum or multi-platinum album but it fell through. Slaughter reaped those benefits.
Did VVI have the album with the longest chart history of any of the KISS solo artists. Yes.
Did VVI have the fastest selling debut in the history of Chrysalis. Yes
Were VVI on two of the most high profile tours of 86-87. Absolutely.
Was VVI mentioned in 1986 Year End Billboard as "making waves" Certainly.
Aerosmith offer for VVI to Open in 1988. Yes.
Vinnie approached to do title song for Nightmare series. Yes
The marketing for ASG much stronger and better than for Invasion. Absolutely.
Was there a new President at Chrysalis that understood metal...and helped break Poison.. etc...and that was all part of the ASG game plan. Certainly.
Was Vinnie #4 in Hits Breakout chart in May ahead of some huge bands...because ASG was doing great at retail when it came out. That's a fact.
Did Ashes To Ashes get the radio play that Mike Bone and the press releases talked about. Certainly. As backed up by the radio charts.
The question is...was Invasion at 400,000 units as Vinnie claimed in May 1988? Possible.
Did Chrysalis confuse the 250,000 Invasion units sold by November 1986 when they were saying ASG shipped more than that? Possible.
Did Vinnie and Chrysalis both say ASG shipped 250,000 or more on the initial shipment- YES. And the second shipment was 50,000 more units after the first week it was out.
By July 2, they had shipped over 375,000 units of All Systems Go. (of course reminding people that this was because of re-orders--not a KISS deal where they over-shipped and then were flooded with returns).
Does that make them a mega-band---when the first two albums might be gold (if they were audited)? No
In reality, Slaughter's debut could probably be certified as 3 X platinum now (if it were resubmitted). Does that make Slaughter a mega band? No. They had one album that sold well. After all, "The WIld Life" only went gold. Huge drop for them.
And really, Bobby was playing with a bigger band than Slaughter. Nelson's "After The Rain" was huge and they toured like hell--did alot of headlining that Slaughter couldn't match.
So you really think anyone around here made a claim that VVI was a mega band???
Do any of you think Britny Fox was a big band? They went gold
Faster Pussycat? They went gold
LA Guns? They went gold