rik fox claims vv look

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:40 am

Rik claimed this was the look vv copied.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:41 am

i have to say the face is a little similar to Vinnie. Rik says he copied his look, made a wig the same as his hair and stole his song. They knew each other back then and used to hang out.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:53 am

i totally believe rik !

AshesToAshes · Post by **AshesToAshes** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:48 am

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:09 am

Of course Rik didn't look like anyone in Motley Crue either did he???

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:50 pm

I saw a Rik eye roll.....

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:15 pm

I also believe Rik

Post by **Genebaby** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:13 pm

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:31 pm

Vinnie's wig DID look alot like Rik'c hair...

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:50 pm

Rik was made with wasp as well as he was the original bass player but blackie refuses to acknowledge it even with photos. Rik says what he feels for sure.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:57 pm

Guess it was a cursed look as neither is well known!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:18 am

All of them just wanted to be Punky Meadows.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:09 am

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:27 am

All wanted to be Punky Brewster?

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:35 am

doublev2 wrote:All wanted to be Punky Brewster?

Not far off.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:30 pm

poserboy71 wrote:All of them just wanted to be Punky Meadows.

Good call dude as always! Punky almost had Cusano's place in KIss too...

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:31 pm

Yeah rick .. good one.

ankh · Post by **ankh** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:56 am

actually, Punky turned them down,as far as i know

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:58 am

Just to add that what Rick said. Yer, I bet no one in L.A had heard of Johnny Thunders or the New York Dolls either. (Only the band that inspired KISS)

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:12 am

+ 10,000

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:12 pm

The only one to pull off the Johnny Thunders look convincingly (right down to death ) was Derik Frigo from Enuff Z'Nuff.

That's wild Dannii, When I was posting the Punky pictures, I almost included Johnny Thunders as part of my post but felt his darker image didn't reflect the glamorous look of Vinnie and Punky....

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:12 am

Rik Fox invented more than Little Richard and Gene Simmons combined and he'll tell that to anyone who will listen!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:08 am

Yes I know, but vv was hanging with him when rik looked like that .
Anyway to be honest if I were rik I wouldnt take credit for vv's 86 look.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:20 pm

There is Glam!

& then there is this;

Looking like a transvestite red neck Christmas tree. That's nothing to want credit for.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:22 pm

Hanoi Rocks as well maybe.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:24 am

Hanoi Rocks were awesome.

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:44 am

I definitely have a magazine where Vinnie discusses the band's "look" and he claims they were doing the glam thing WAY before anyone else...it's just that they didn't break with their record deal until AFTER glam was popular so it made them LOOK like they were jumping on the bandwagon.

That was exhausting even to just type...

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:49 am

Funny. I did read vv talk about the asg look as well. Still for me vv looked best on us lick it up tour and dean markley amp promo.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:22 am

doublev2 wrote:Funny. I did read vv talk about the asg look as well. Still for me vv looked best on us lick it up tour and dean markley amp promo.

I agree.
Which reminds me, I have to hunt for that poster again.

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:26 pm

metatron wrote:There is Glam!

& then there is this;

Looking like a transvestite red neck Christmas tree. That's nothing to want credit for.

Ha ha ha. Redneck Christmas tree. Good one!!!

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:40 pm

Genebaby wrote:

Madonna and Dee Snider had a baby

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:45 pm

Is this thread debating who originally borrowed his girlfriend's clothes and Aqua Net before going out on stage?

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:16 pm

doublev2 wrote:Still for me vv looked best on us lick it up tour and dean markley amp promo.

Yes he did look cool then... but for me, nothing beats this look:

... seeing him in the ankh face for the first time back in early '83 totally had me intrigued!

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:06 pm

KissMyAss wrote:Is this thread debating who originally borrowed his girlfriend's clothes and Aqua Net before going out on stage?

You had me at 'Aqua Net'.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:36 pm

Brought up the subject of Rik Fox with a friend, who would live between Sydney & L.A. during the whole Glam Sunset Strip era, This guys about 5 years older an me. Anyway, without me saying anything (besides the name Rik Fox) he does the gesture of playing Air Bass & says to me, 'Do you mean the Guy that was in Steeler'. I said 'yer that guy'. Before I can start telling him about how Rik thinks VV stole his Hair-do, my friend interjects with something I had read in an interview may years ago, with Ron Keel. (could have sworn, it was in a fullinbloommusic.com interview with Ron Keel. Had a look, but couldn't find it. Maybe Ron had a change of mind & got 'what I'm about to say' pulled from the publication)
So my friends says to me, 'you realize, that Rik never played on the Steeler album. What Ron & Yngwie, would do is go back to the studio at night & record Rik's parts.'
I bring this up to make a couple of points. People in glass houses shouldn't be throwing rocks & two, to show how rumors start.
The facts are, I don't know if Rik did or didn't play on the Steeler Album (but I do know what I read & it was back up by someone who lived in that scene during those days). Still that does prove anything. The thing about VV ripping Rik's hair style up is ridiculous. If that's how the world worked, I should be a multi billionaire. Why

, cause my real last name is PARIS (no, it not some wannabe try hard thing, it really is PARIS) In theory I should get a royalty every time that PARIS occurs on a bottle of perfume, a piece of clothing, a watch...you name it, I should get some ca$hola. But I don't.

Life goes on.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:27 pm

funny. i think what Rik is saying is he seemed to be really into Rik's look. You are right that its a little harsh to say VV ripped his look off.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:42 pm

And you can dance For inspiration, come on!

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:17 pm

Look closely at that P!nk Champagne photo, I'm wearing black lace gloves. Loved that Madonna look b4 she went all assy...I mean classy

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:30 am

To say Rik Fox invented that style of dressing is ludicrous. It slowly evolved over time and was developed during that time by many different people until it finally reached it's climax and went away. Just like any trend in fashion...or music...

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:44 am

He didnt say he invented the style.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:58 am

doublev2 wrote:funny. i thin k what Rik is saying is he seemed to be really into Rik's look. You are right that its a little harsh to say VV ripped his look off.

Rik was really into Rik's look? Doesn't surprise me...

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:11 pm

metatron wrote:Look closely at that P!nk Champagne photo, I'm wearing black lace gloves. Loved that Madonna look b4 she went all assy...I mean classy

Pffttt...I found a real Madonna impersonator.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:40 pm

Geez KMA, that's nearly as cute as Grant my avatar!!!

Rexx · Post by **Rexx** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:28 am

First I believe Rik Fox. I listened to the Sin demo that Dana Strum engineered called "On The Run" VV heard the song , liked it and stole the main riff for "Let Freedom Rock" Later on VV copied Rik Fox's image.
I see the gypsy in musicians all the time, stealing from each other with no conscience.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:29 am

Rexx you got it. He stole the song and so why is it so hard to think he copied the image, The hair was the same style and within degrees of hair metal hairstyles they were closer than other styles and looks.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:32 am

what is so confusing is why did vv who can write so well rip off the Sin Demo? Was Dana really pushing him? Unless he has terrible time constraints and couldn't come up with new music why would he rip it off? Also their are question marks on a few other songs as well as the opening of Ashes to Ashes which I feel should have been credited to the original artist as much as VV got credit for that I love it loud drum sample in that dance tune recently.

Rexx · Post by **Rexx** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:19 am

Yeah I heard about that intro to "Ashes to Ashes" was the vocals of a bands song Dana was producing, they reversed their tape to have the backwards "Oh the Zero men"

I dunno, ruthlessness comes to mind, a lack of scruples..

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:01 am

Rexx wrote:First I believe Rik Fox. I listened to the Sin demo that Dana Strum engineered called "On The Run" VV heard the song , liked it and stole the main riff for "Let Freedom Rock" Later on VV copied Rik Fox's image.
I see the gypsy in musicians all the time, stealing from each other with no conscience.

Sorry to be so frank but "who the fuck cares?"

It's an IMAGE. I listen to the Rolling Stones. They're not pretty.

KissMyAss · Post by **KissMyAss** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:06 am

I think you guys need a dose of ugly rock n roll

Rexx · Post by **Rexx** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:47 am

You can be Frank or Harry or a Dick for all I care.

You point is moot KMA.