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I skimmed through Paul's book yesterday.

Paul said that Vinnie did IN FACT wear a wig for the LIU album cover.WE WERE CORRECT.
Of course , Kiss then had MSJ wear the VERY SAME WIG for the Animalize photo session.
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Already about half way thru the book... haven't reached the LIU years but did skim thru where he describes Vinnie's audition as goofy.

Kiss must've forced Mark to wear the same wig that Vinnie probably chose to wear.
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What does exactly say?
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The question is WHY did they make him wear a wig? He had a full head of hair! As did Mark!!!
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All the parts of the book I have seen really make Stanley sound very pedestal sitting and petty. Calling Ace antisemitic is odd I guess he forgot the pics of him in the red nazi suit giving the sieg heil.
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I say it was to some how, subconsciously, make people think that VV was Ace & then, when people caught on that it wasn't Ace, but a new member, Vinnie Vincent, fans had been given time to get use to the idea without it looking like a sudden stop/start, change of guards just occurred. Then do the same with MSJ to keep that illusion going. To some how trick the fan's brain into thinking that all was stable and happy in the KISS camp (No Change had occurred), when it was far from that.
Let's face it even Paul & Gene's relationship is more than not based on a business (money) partnership than anything else. I'd say in real life, even they hate each other guts let alone any other band members. KISS is all about the bottom line, the ca$hola. Do almost anything to bleed more money out of a fan.
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So they wanted to make his hair to look like Ace
maybe they still wanted Ace around 84
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Yer, they did want ACE...
Let rephrase that.
They didn't want change.
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PinkWiz wrote:
Kiss must've forced Mark to wear the same wig that Vinnie probably chose to wear.
I stand corrected... Vinnie didn't wanna wear the LIU wig. Paul says in his book he thought it looked great but that Vinnie didn't wanna wear it. Paul says Vinnie's real hair looked like the "Gerber baby's"(?) and that he always thought Vinnie was really odd looking.

He also describes Mark St. John as "goofy and oversized."

Kinda ironic coming from somebody who only had one ear.
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PinkWiz wrote:
PinkWiz wrote:
Kiss must've forced Mark to wear the same wig that Vinnie probably chose to wear.
I stand corrected... Vinnie didn't wanna wear the LIU wig. Paul says in his book he thought it looked great but that Vinnie didn't wanna wear it. Paul says Vinnie's real hair looked like the "Gerber baby's"(?) and that he always thought Vinnie was really odd looking.
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Paul says Vinnie's real hair looked like the "Gerber baby's"(?) and that he always thought Vinnie was really odd looking.
I'm with you Pinkwiz "Gerber baby's"(?) i don't get it. Maybe the Baby face and his...maybe messy, like a child??? or not poodle like enough for Paul's liking
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he meant baby hair, really thin
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My belief is the wig was owned by the stylist and they used same stylist for animalize
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( Kiss days ) Vinnie Vincent : You call that a wig ?
( VVI days ) Vinnie Vincent : Now that's wig !
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All records starting with liu onwards that vv played on he had a wig on album photographs.
The gerber thing must have rubbed off on him.
I much prefer his own hair
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Nick smith told me that during the Vinnie expos back in 96 that Vinnie wore a a syrup and in fact was blad
Yul brener look
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doublev2 wrote: I much prefer his own hair
Agreed

Qpr68 wrote:Nick smith told me that during the Vinnie expos back in 96 that Vinnie wore a a syrup and in fact was bald
Yul Brynner look
He would look cool bald. You can tell he was. He shaved his sideburns...
There were stories of him actually being comfortable with it off or adjusting it in front of a tribute band.
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i heard from the vvi guys that he was not bald and the Dean Markley ad i am sure is his real hair and not bald at all. but i don't know after the GFH days.
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