Vinnie Vincent Special Part 3 - w/Robert Fleischman

WizKid · Post by **WizKid** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:45 am

KISSMAS in July hits week three with a bullet with the third installment of our Vinnie Vincent Special. If you are new to the Decibel Geek podcast, then you may not know that 2 of our most popular episodes took place in 2011 when Chris Czynszak (pre-Aaron Camaro), released parts 1 and 2 of the Vinnie Vincent special. The episodes received lots of attention across the web due, in no small part, to the then-recent legal troubles that the former KISS guitarist was enduring. Since the release of the pair of episodes on Vincent, listeners from all over the globe have contacted the Decibel Geek website asking if another installment would be coming. While initially hesitant to release more specials on the troubled guitarist, we recently had the fortunate opportunity to have an in-depth conversation with someone that worked very closely with Vinnie Vincent and had a unique, behind the scenes perspective that many people have never seen.

http://dbgeekshow.blogspot.com/2012/07/ ... -part.html

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:01 am

Excellent!!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:14 pm

Dino guessed correctly !!!!

reneroxx · Post by **reneroxx** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:20 pm

there will be again a podcast of exclusive photos of vinnie?

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:23 pm

Rene , Chris has some great surprises planned. Stay tuned...

reneroxx · Post by **reneroxx** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:37 pm

:3 awsome i will

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:39 pm

I've listened to everything but the last segment.

I much enjoyed his opinions on Mr. Strum.

jesternjeff · Post by **jesternjeff** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:12 pm

Sweet thanks !

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:50 pm

The thing he said about giving vinnie a dollar and he takes as thousand is so perfectly put. Vinnie is still doing that to this day. Also the long letter thing is exactly what he did to.me. Roberts experience with vinnie seems to be exactly the same as everyone has with him.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:52 pm

In general i think he was pretty nice about vinnie. I have heard him say a lot worse.

reneroxx · Post by **reneroxx** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:18 pm

this podcast was awsome thanks to robert to share those words was awsome

n3p · Post by **n3p** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:40 pm

Wizkid, thanks a lot for sharing your interview. It was great to hear Robert's thoughts on his VVI experience. Looking forward to more!

Nick

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:47 pm

Most excellent!

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:41 pm

Wasn't it Enigma Vinnie had the deal with for GFH?

WizKid · Post by **WizKid** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:50 pm

Genebaby wrote:Wasn't it Enigma Vinnie had the deal with for GFH?

Yes, I found out after the fact that it was Enigma and not Epitaph. Sorry 'bout that.

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:54 pm

No stress, I'm just listening now, great stuff. Just funny Robert forgot, but it's not as important to him to remember everything.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:38 am

Been hanging to listen to this all day. 1:27am, Got to listen to it in full in peace. Fucken Awesome. Robert's a very nice guy. Chris & AAron brilliant stella work as always. Funny he seems to be more harsh on Mark than VV. But Mark was just a kid taking his marching orders. In saying that I'd be pissed too if i saw a guy miming to my voice. & to me the whole tranny glam image thing. Water off a ducks back. To me if they didn't look like trannies, there was a problem. I'm a firm believer in the theory that Rock n' Roll is a prostitute, it needs to be tarted up.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:03 am

Funny. The rumor was in the day gfh was finished and ready but enigma went bust. Even rumors that enigma promo cds were circulated. Of course bull shit .

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:07 am

Believe me robert was just being nice. He has some worse stories about vv .

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:38 am

I think I've heard them but do share m'boy !!!!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:50 am

It all happened on a dark winterey night aboard a soviet train bound for Vladivostok. Vinnie guitar in hand....

1031 · Post by **1031** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:07 am

Great interview, I think Gene said it best, " as you hand him the keys to the kingdom he throws it all away " or something close to that

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:46 am

Listened to the last portion on the way into work this morning.

I really found the part about recording GFH interesting. Here was a guy given a second chance and he almost immediately starts shitting on it. I remember reading in some rock/metal magazine about Vinnie getting the Enigma deal. (It was one of those 2 line "news bites" sections.) I was so excited that he had landed another deal. (This was back when Slaughter was going by the temporary name Secret Service.)

ozone73 · Post by **ozone73** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:48 am

Listened to this last night. Once again, great job. LoL @ Robert calling Dana Vinnie's monkey.

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:15 am

It's all a shame how it came down because I think that Vinnie and Robert are truly one of those "magic" combinations. Nobody knows why it works, but it just does. Like the original KISS line-up where the guys were replaced by far superior musicians yet were still not as good for some intangible reason.

I would love to hear Vinnie work with Robert again. If I were a millionaire I would make that happen.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:36 am

Yeah Robert was good for vinnie. he has said no way in hell would he work with him again. Vinnie has not changed we all know that. Robert is perfect with his description of vv. Why the hell did he shop GFH around that has to be the lowest point. Like he said he had an unlikely second chance and blew that.

Vinnie can only do well with people bringing him down to earth and Robert seems like that guy.

As for Mark I see what he says.. it takes a lot to go out and agree to mime someone elses voice. I know he was a kid but it was a low move . He got away with it though.

WizKid · Post by **WizKid** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:47 am

Really appreciate the kind words guys. It was a lot of work but fun to put together. The response has been great across the internet and we love getting new ears to the show so if you want to help, please share the link with a friend.

We tried to feature pieces of the entire album by The Sky throughout the show and, if you dig what you heard, go purchase a copy. I hope Robert gets more ears to his band from this as well. Cheers!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:57 am

yeah it was great.
chris.. did Robert say exactly how VV contacted him to work on GFH?

WizKid · Post by **WizKid** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:05 am

doublev2 wrote:yeah it was great.
chris.. did Robert say exactly how VV contacted him to work on GFH?

No, he didn't but I'd assume it was a phone call.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:16 am

cool. yeah i really like Roberts no bs style and you two guys are a great team. I feel like its the superbowl half time analysis sometimes. hehe

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:23 pm

Hey, just wondering if this is Dana Strum in the 'The Ultimate Ozzy', Bark At The Moon intro (@00:41) .

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doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:35 pm

Dana is or was Vince neils monkey too. Dannii.. good one.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:58 am

WOW- They don't show Ozzy descending from the lights in the -Monster Ozzy chair- in that version.

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:11 am

From the stories you read, Vinnie wasn't the most...ethical...person in the world, even back before he was in KISS. Then you pair him up with Dana, who is allegedly a real dirtbag if you believe the stories. It's like mixing gasoline and kerosine next to an open fire.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:38 pm

I wonder if vv still wants robert to re record asg... Hehe. Mark is the only person until that statement that wanted to hook up with vv.

n3p · Post by **n3p** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:48 pm

Loved the part where Robert impersonated Vinnie being around him whilst he smoked a doobie

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:58 pm

Vinnie says he was shopping around because he knew enigma were finishing even though it was a year before they closed up.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:00 pm

Anyway no one bought the contract. I wonder if capital still own those recordings seen as rocks on fire was finished.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:03 pm

I wonder how vv pissed of the Atlanta expo guy. I have not heard that story. Robert said the guy would never work with him again.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:05 pm

Vv has to just release his music and stop fighting people

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:47 pm

Yes!! Yes!! And again yes!!!

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:07 am

doublev2 wrote:Vv has to just release his music and stop fighting people

I've said it before. Until he releases it, nobody can dispute it's merits as a masterpiece. As soon as it is released and people can officially critique it, he can continue to live in his fantasy world.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:55 am

He lives in a world where he has to be the best in the world and has to hear it over and over.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:03 am

doublev2 wrote:He lives in a world where he has to be the best in the world and has to hear it over and over.

Funny, I live there too.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:06 am

Funny.. when I wrote that I thought actually I do too.