"On the other hand, Vinnie Vincent stepped in to replace Ace Frehley with prodigious guitar talent of his own, but with an ego problem that would cause mayhem for KISS and spawn a sliding turnstile of guitarists and changing line-ups for years to come."
Actually, I recall Eric said Lick It Up was his favourite Kiss record, that it pumped from start to finish. This was from one of the very cool Rock Scene Kiss specials.
I think he preferred the drum sound only on Creatures but gave LIU honours for better record.
I actually prefer the production on LIU (and the four new songs on Killers). The drums on Creatures are a bit over the top. I can the drummer being very hapy of course, like me when my guitars are too loud on stage, I don't care, I love it!
Wow , I have an interview infront of me where he says creatures. Obviously they were his two favourites. Bruce said Eric loved vinnie. I am not sure if as a friend or musician. Most likely kiss wouldn't let Eric speak to him.
I used to dream in the 80s that vv and Eric would form a band together. Both playing bass on the record. Sharing vocals . They could do the whole thing without anyone else. I bet vinnie would have been a great writing partner for Eric too.
Didn't Eric "Gift" the makeup design to Vinnie? His Family should respect Erics dying wishes... It was Erics way of sticking it to Gene & Paul? Who knows now? It's almost 20 years ago... I miss Eric, he was great...
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Brooklyn_Born wrote:Didn't Eric "Gift" the makeup design to Vinnie? His Family should respect Erics dying wishes... It was Erics way of sticking it to Gene & Paul?
Hmmm............. you may well have a point there!!!!!
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Lick It Up and Creatures... a tie for me! A Million To One, War Machine, Not For The Innocent, I Still Love You, All Hell's Breakin' Loose, Killer... every song on both albums fukn slay! I can't pick a favorite...
BUT nothing looks cooler than the Creatures costumes... I know they had to remove the makeup to survive, but damn, the Wizard, Fox, Starchild and Demon looked badass... and kinda dangerous again!
Genebaby wrote:Les Kero is Vinnie's father in law. For the moment at least, who knows what's happening there.
Thank you for the info. I tried to look this up from FAQ and other places as well but nothing..
Vinnie's father in law.. hmm Let's hope V doesn't fuck everything up. Ofcourse he has done that already and it seems that his life is not in his hands anymore. So is Mr. Cusanos life (incomes, business in general) in the hands of Mr. Kero? If you are bankrubted and cannot do business with your own name then all the business must be made with someone else's name. Is Les Kero that name?
YES. Vinnie has unfortunately fucked himself. There was a time when we wanted to help yet his foolish pride disabled that. None of us really WANT this ,but ,since he continues to slander us, we will speed up his situation for him.
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oddly enough, they do reconize us on the street without the make up. fuck man! you have only been wearing makeup less than a yr. of course they are going to know who YOU were. they killed his thunder when they made fun of his red jacket. what a dumbass comment Vin Vin.
Maybe I'll get a wee bit of flack for saying this, but I do prefer Creatures over LIU mostly because LIU has (at least for me) one of the most boring and insipid Gene songs ever: "Dance All Over You Face".
I swear of god, I can't stand that bloody song.
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Both great! LIU the song itself is very weak! Eight Day is also pretty lame. But the rest of it is fantastic.
I don't like I Love it Loud much either even with the huge drum sound!
I'll be nice and say a tie!
Promises made, crying in vain, all empty. Never accepting the blame and not letting go of the shame. A river of tears, as months turn to years, all wasted. On someone not willing to change.Now only a shadow remains!
I agree lick it up the song is something I don't enjoy at all. I feel like dance all over your face is better suited to asylum but don't mind it from memory.
Lick It Up the title track is pure brilliance. So simple yet do addictive! Even my daughter loves it.
I can't hear a bad word said about any song on LIU.
In my previous post I was talking to Paul Stanley who didn't like to admit LIU was better and accused people who bought more copies of LIU than Creatures that they were listening with their eyes as they didn't prefer the make-up album.
Sorry Paul, LIU was the best Kiss album of the 80's!
When lick it up is on the radio I don't crank it up. I realise the genius of the song but its not something I would chose to play. I thought on the asg tour it was the weekest tune.
doublev2 wrote: I thought on the asg tour it was the weekest tune.
I'd agree with that!
(weakest Dino! he he he)
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I think LIU is the most consistent sounding album in the entire KISS catalog. It feels like the writing and compositions were a group effort. They all fit together. Other KISS albums are great, of course, but they always had "Paul songs" and "Gene songs" and "Ace songs" and then usually at least one song in general that was characteristically different.
LIU, to me, all the songs fit together, have a similar feel yet still individual. (With the title track being the possible exception.)
Creatures has some great songs but with all the guest writers, guest musicians and joint production responsibilities it sometimes sounds like a compilation album.
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