Safari4ad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:40 am
I guess you don't know about all of Vinnie's work in the 70's. Desmond's two albums in the 70's didn't sell shit.
As opposed to all those classic, multiplatinum 70s albums from Vinnie? Say what you will about Desmond Child, but the man has his prints all over a gazillion hugely popular songs, which is more than can be said for VV.
By the way, that's NOT a dig against VV. It's calling out a board member who is clearly living in the same world of delusion that he accused everyone else of living in. Even if some of them are living in Fantasy Land, but at best, you're one of the neighbors.
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Vinnie put out some great product in the 70's. Desmond put out shit product.
I could care less what Desmond's prints are all over. He sucked with KISS and Kiss thrived with Vinnie.
Look how many crap albums of KISS that Desmond is all over. That's why he ended up being Banned For Life from KISS. His work with them pretty much sucked.
I love how the "alternate universe" people try and twist things. Who cares what success Desmond had with other acts. It's irrelevant. With KISS most of his material was mediocre or alienated actual KISS fans.
Have you even bothered to look at the crap he co-wrote with KISS in the 80's?
Asylum - probably by far the worst KISS album of the 80's (if you exclude The Elder which really wasn't a KISS album). 5 tracks DC and the album sucks.
King of the Mountain (with Paul & Bruce)
Who Wants To Be Lonely (with Paul & Jean)
I'm Alive (with Paul and Bruce)
Radar For Love (with Paul and Jean)
Uh All Night (with Paul)
His work on their 2nd worst album of the 80's- Crazy Nights
Bang Bang You (one of the worst songs in KISStory).
My Way
and a song stolen from Foreigner "Reason To Love"
Smashes Trashes - 2 horrendous songs
You Make Me and X In Sex
HITS
Hide Your Heart (Diane Warren probably wrote the majority of it), Actually written for CN and not used
and another filler track from DC "You Love Me To Hate You"
Animalize
HOF (Paul's attempt to re-do LIU)
I've Had Enough
Under The Gun (with Eric Carr also)
As one can clearly see, Desmond's contributions to KISS on 5 albums in the 80's were pretty mediocre.
Gene banned him prior to Revenge and Vinnie was brought back in
But Paul did bring Desmond back for his 2006 solo album "Live To Win". And Desmond had his name on 5 songs. Pretty much all filler from Desmond except the title track but then who knows how much he even contributed to it. He was one of 3 on that one.
So its easy to see what a bust Desmond Child was with KISS
Some will try and act like IWM4LU (with Vini Ponci and Paul) is some big deal. If you like alienating the fan base
or some act like because people listen to it for free on Spotify or some other place that matters.
That reminds me of Netflix acting like if this title would have been in the movie theater it would have translated into $200M at the box office. Which is complete Bs. People watching/listening to something that doesn't cost them anymore is totally different than people who actually pay for the privilege