VV Birthday Jamm?

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:12 am

Well, one thing that makes the earlier Slaughter stuff tough for me is all the unnecessary intros to each song, like dreamy keyboards and bubble machine noises. I prefer to to hear a song straight up without a thick layer of frosting slathered over it.

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:15 am

richiehaha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:05 am I haven't been on in a while b/c it seems to be nothing but bickering anymore. I just went through a bunch of posts to catch up and I do have one question...where the hell has the AnkhWarrior Jessica girl been? It's just not the same without her commenting on stuff!!!

Son, you need to come to the Bash next month and seek refuge from all the bickering. And bring the AnkhWarrior with ya.

ChucknNorris · Post by **ChucknNorris** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:40 pm

“Satanic leftist insanity”??!!!! Holy crap that’s gold!
Yup, blame the fans is in full effect. So sad.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:42 pm

Hated the Slaughter album from the first listen. Loved the cover art

but couldn't stand the music. Up all night, shit all day!

"“Satanic leftist insanity”??!!!! Holy crap that’s gold!
Yup, blame the fans is in full effect. So sad."

Yeah Chucky! That's a strange one!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:46 pm

On vv's claim of "Satanic leftist insanity"

Well firstly who the fuck is satanic ? And quite frankly being satanic is more of a joke these days.

Secondly politicising fans is so dumb.

Thirdly again fight the hands that feed you. Cause and effect. You tell the fans you love them all and they tell you that right back. You tell the fans they are nut jobs they tell you that back .

Its a mirror system. If you fight with the mirror you always loose. If you are nice to the mirror you always win

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:02 pm

doublev2 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:46 pm On vv's claim of "Satanic leftist insanity"

Well firstly who the fuck is satanic ? And quite frankly being satanic is more of a joke these days.

Secondly politicising fans is so dumb.

Thirdly again fight the hands that feed you. Cause and effect. You tell the fans you love them all and they tell you that right back. You tell the fans they are nut jobs they tell you that back .

Its a mirror system. If you fight with the mirror you always loose. If you are nice to the mirror you always win

He can't face the mirror

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:32 pm

And third time now he has gone on record to cancel the archives / boxset because of fans

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:19 pm

Sounds like some are really rooting for him to fail. A shame. And kinda Satanic, lol.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:55 pm

It says a lot about someone's character.
There are quite a few VVFF Elder who are really upset yet decide to not waste energy on hating.
It only makes things worse.

They choose not to go overboard with comments simply because it not only affects them , it affects others.

Are they still upset, pissed, bummed, etc...?
You betcha !!!!
Are they still fans that love the old stuff and hope for more ?
YOU BETCHA !!!! (Even Dino )

(EVEN CC is still somewhat curious)

For whatever reasons, Vinnie has had a difficult time getting product and events to materialize.
There is a struggle that a lot of people aren't understanding or compassionate about.
Whether people think it's self-inflicted or not. Whether he accepts help from fans or is doing things by himself, encouragement would seem to a better road to take than nit-picking and potshots.

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:41 am

Man, I think we are SO on the same page. I’d never challenge anyone’s reasons for being hurt or upset when things haven’t worked out, materialized, etc. I totally understand that. My issue, like yours, is just with people forecasting failure, rooting for a bad outcome, making fun of in a cruel way, and just kicking people when things aren’t working out. It absolutely lacks compassion and definitely hurts things for other fans who are trying to be optimistic.

People can feel however they wish, but much respect to VVFF elders who are able keep out of the general pile on. This has nothing to do with who did what, or who is to blame, for which there are obviously lots of opinions. At this point, everything has been aired, everyone has spoken their minds, and nobody out there being negative has anything new to say... so why continue the pile-on and the kicking? I’d argue that at some point it becomes self-fulfilling prophecy by negative fans.

VikingVVFan · Post by **VikingVVFan** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:55 am

"It says a lot about someone's character.."

Right!

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:04 am

VikingVVFan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:55 am "It says a lot about someone's character.."

Right!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:04 am

Cases in point.

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:54 am

Fromage!!!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:33 pm

Who really cares about any of this. Its sad however vv's career has ended up in a debate about will he show up or not and the success will be based on if he shows up to an event that's not even a gig. How sad can this be? But most people's interest in vv now is based on how far gone he has gotten or proving he is not as far gone as people think.

Sad situation when I think most people liked Vinnie because of his music which has stalled since the mid 90s. These excuses only arise because he has no music , he can not make music or at least can not still his mind enough to make music and he can not play too well anymore. If he could do any of these things he wouldn't need to be picking fights, hating ex members and fans and bullying certain fans to buying his tickets. This is the actions of someone who has zero confidence but hiding it through arrogance and sympathy.

If he actually tried to get help and extend arm I think lots of people would be cool with they but the way it's being handled is just not helping him

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:36 pm

And the brown nosers make this worse. The yes men through out history have been the people who destroy people. So in my eyes the biggest haters are the yes men . They are evil little shits trying to get a drop of vv's approval at his own expense. Dumbasses basically

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:52 pm

doublev2 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:36 pm And the brown nosers make this worse. The yes men through out history have been the people who destroy people. So in my eyes the biggest haters are the yes men . They are evil little shits trying to get a drop of vv's approval at his own expense. Dumbasses basically

Wow, well said !!!!!

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:00 pm

Well... One thing is for certain, lol. Rokken is no brown noser or enabler, and definitely not a yes man. I’m positive all day long but never act or encourage behavior that is harmful to an artist just to get favor or attention. Don’t need to, and wouldn’t want to. I’ve seen and known a TON of people in the past who would though, and some would stab their mother in the eye for one drop more. Then if they get it they abuse it in more ways than I care to relate. Those are truly the dangerous ones to both the artist and the health of any fanbase.

Any luck I’ve ever had has been from being a friend in some capacity. I keep my opinions to myself unless asked, and then if I disagree with something I’m kind and diplomatic about it. I think people in general value and want that.

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:00 am

doublev2 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:33 pmSad situation when I think most people liked Vinnie because of his music which has stalled since the mid 90s.

Some of us just aren’t too concerned about that. Of course most people know Vinnie thru his music, and whether it was his earliest work, or with KISS, or with VVI, or anything released since, it made a difference to us and ties in with special memories in our lives — good times, hard times, etc. It was part of the soundtrack of our lives.

Honestly, I’m just excited to finally get to meet Vinnie and share some quality time with him and other fans who aren’t crushing him with the weight of our expectations, pushing too hard for things we want to get out of it for ourselves, or trying to nose our way behind the curtain into his personal affairs. If I could only share a bite of lunch and a conversation about music with him, it would be well worth the trip to me. Anything on top of that is a bonus. And it sounds like nobody is going to walk away from this feeling disappointed — nowhere close.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:59 pm

Ok will reply after August 10. Speak then. I suggest the two of you don't read each others posts to make life a bit easier .

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:57 pm

Fair enough

beano · Post by **beano** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:39 am

RipRokken wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:00 pm I keep my opinions to myself unless asked, and then if I disagree with something I’m kind and diplomatic about it. I think people in general value and want that.

Hahahahaahahaha!!!!!

EXCEPT YOU DON’T....
.....you just waffle on about crap that people don’t give two shits about. You know nothing and you have no news, and bring absolutely nothing to the table.

What an amazing deluded view you have of yourself. I’d hate for anyone to get swallowed up in their own self importance

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:50 am

beano wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:39 am
RipRokken wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:00 pm I keep my opinions to myself unless asked, and then if I disagree with something I’m kind and diplomatic about it. I think people in general value and want that.
Hahahahaahahaha!!!!!

EXCEPT YOU DON’T....
.....you just waffle on about crap that people don’t give two shits about. You know nothing and you have no news, and bring absolutely nothing to the table.

What an amazing deluded view you have of yourself. I’d hate for anyone to get swallowed up in their own self importance

I agree 100 %.

Post by **Genebaby** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:22 am

Only saying nice things, being positive about Vinnie is great.

Unfortunately it's not realistic but I can see where both sides are coming from.

The only place that only positive, nice things being said, while surrounded by the opposite, is a place full of sycophants and yes fans, which gladly we are not.

Both views are valid here, not everyone has had the same experience as you.

Say what you want but be nice to each other, be constructive, not mean. Otherwise ignore what you don't like.

You do it a lot in real life, being far away and behind a keyboard does not make you Chuck Norris.

Opinions and thoughts on Vinnie will always differ. At least here we can have them all.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:30 am

Saying nice things or bad things about Vinnie gets you in the same place eventually.

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:49 am

Genebaby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:22 am Only saying nice things, being positive about Vinnie is great.

Unfortunately it's not realistic but I can see where both sides are coming from.

The only place that only positive, nice things being said, while surrounded by the opposite, is a place full of sycophants and yes fans, which gladly we are not.

Both views are valid here, not everyone has had the same experience as you.

Say what you want but be nice to each other, be constructive, not mean. Otherwise ignore what you don't like.

You do it a lot in real life, being far away and behind a keyboard does not make you Chuck Norris.

Opinions and thoughts on Vinnie will always differ. At least here we can have them all.

Thank you Genebaby, for being very understanding.

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:58 pm

Genebaby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:22 am Only saying nice things, being positive about Vinnie is great.

Unfortunately it's not realistic but I can see where both sides are coming from.

The only place that only positive, nice things being said, while surrounded by the opposite, is a place full of sycophants and yes fans, which gladly we are not.

Both views are valid here, not everyone has had the same experience as you.

Say what you want but be nice to each other, be constructive, not mean. Otherwise ignore what you don't like.

You do it a lot in real life, being far away and behind a keyboard does not make you Chuck Norris.

Opinions and thoughts on Vinnie will always differ. At least here we can have them all.

Personally, i think saying neither Good or Bad thing about Vinnie Vincent is the way to go. Celebrate his success, enjoy the music, the image, the assorted additional things he brought to the table, like the VVV guitars, having a great band, being in KISS, the great sounds, the image, but don't get personally involved. I'm 99% sure that he suffers from a mental illness, if not many. And like a drug addict (which I am not saying he is or isn't) , his illness is dictating his actions. From a distance, there is nothing as Fans that we can do. Someone very close to him has to step in and get him help to manage his illness and make sure he does his rehabilitation. - I'd don't think VV can do it on his own. There is no shame in this. Like starting to learn to ride a bicycle, we all need a helping hand. At first even to just balance on the thing, then a helping gentle push up a hill and then the day comes when one can do this all on their own.

fullshredd · Post by **fullshredd** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:01 pm

I think Vinnie would have fit right as a composer during the 16th century; just as misunderstood and ridiculed but with the "luxury" of modern, digital exposure

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:25 pm

LUDIVINE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:50 am
beano wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:39 amHahahahaahahaha!!!!!

EXCEPT YOU DON’T....
.....you just waffle on about crap that people don’t give two shits about. You know nothing and you have no news, and bring absolutely nothing to the table.

What an amazing deluded view you have of yourself. I’d hate for anyone to get swallowed up in their own self importance
I agree 100 %.

Beano — You gave me the biggest smile today. Keep it up! Probably because your posts remind me of an old friend (R.I.P.) from another board who went by “Deano”. I miss that guy...

LUDIVINE — Vieux-Boulogne!!!

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:43 pm

RipRokken wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:25 pm
LUDIVINE wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:50 am
beano wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:39 amHahahahaahahaha!!!!!

EXCEPT YOU DON’T....
.....you just waffle on about crap that people don’t give two shits about. You know nothing and you have no news, and bring absolutely nothing to the table.

What an amazing deluded view you have of yourself. I’d hate for anyone to get swallowed up in their own self importance
I agree 100 %.

Beano — You gave me the biggest smile today. Keep it up! Probably because your posts remind me of an old friend (R.I.P.) from another board who went by “Deano”. I miss that guy...

LUDIVINE — Vieux-Boulogne!!!

oh, learn how to use your French translator, because this means nothing ! Mr Stockholm syndrome ! We all have the proof that you're part of Vinnie's cult now, insults are coming !!!!!! As usual.........

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:49 pm

LUDIVINE wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:43 pm
RipRokken wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:25 pmLUDIVINE — Vieux-Boulogne!!!
oh, learn how to use your French translator, because this means nothing ! Mr Stockholm syndrome ! We all have the proof that you're part of Vinnie's cult now, insults are coming !!!!!! As usual.........

It does mean something, according to this list...

https://www.completefrance.com/language ... -1-5674469

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:50 pm

Guys, chill, don't ill, please.

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:56 pm

I’m kinda all out of “turn the other cheek”
today, Genebaby. If the mutts want to play rough, they’re likely to get it right back (within reason of course).

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:00 pm

Genebaby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:50 pm Guys, chill, don't ill, please.

Genebaby, this guy is part of the Vinnie cult, I know exactly how they behave and stalk. I even have an idea about his real identity.

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:03 pm

RipRokken wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:49 pm
LUDIVINE wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:43 pm
RipRokken wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:25 pmLUDIVINE — Vieux-Boulogne!!!
oh, learn how to use your French translator, because this means nothing ! Mr Stockholm syndrome ! We all have the proof that you're part of Vinnie's cult now, insults are coming !!!!!! As usual.........

It does mean something, according to this list...

https://www.completefrance.com/language ... -1-5674469

oh, you are obssesed about me, here's my reply to you !

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:07 pm

I have nothing to hide and I don’t care for mystery games. If you think you know something, spill it... what is it you say... “stop beating around the bush”? Just be prepared to receiveth as thou disheth out.

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:10 pm

RipRokken wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:07 pm I have nothing to hide and I don’t care for mystery games. If you think you know something, spill it... what is it you say... “stop beating around the bush”? Just be prepared to receiveth as thou disheth out.

You have a lot to hide, I will spit what I know to Genebaby in PM. Now beat it, we have seen your true colors !!!!

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:21 pm

LUDIVINE wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:10 pmYou have a lot to hide, I will spit what I know to Genebaby in PM. Now beat it, we have seen your true colors !!!!

Well, that ought to make for a fun, fictional read. Go for it!

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:25 pm

RipRokken wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:21 pm
LUDIVINE wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:10 pmYou have a lot to hide, I will spit what I know to Genebaby in PM. Now beat it, we have seen your true colors !!!!

Well, that ought to make for a fun, fictional read. Go for it!

You'll talk with yourself now, you're not worth my interest !!!! I'll watch you make a fool of yourself !!!!

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:32 pm

Good god... Don’t you have a job, or anything constructive to do with your time other than have paranoid meltdowns and pick fights with people online? I’m apparently not the first person here to comment on the meltdowns.

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:39 pm

RipRokken wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:32 pm Good god... Don’t you have a job, or anything constructive to do with your time other than have paranoid meltdowns and pick fights with people online? I’m apparently not the first person here to comment on the meltdowns.

I have a job baby and a great life !!!! Don't you ever sleep ? You're feeling bored because you have no news to bring ? Oh, meltdowns ! A few people here already called you out. You don't have facebook lol !!!!! Va pleurer chez ta rem.

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:44 pm

Correct... Rip Rokken has no Facebook account. Shut it down a couple of years ago. And yes, meltdowns. Not long ago you posted in this same thread accusing someone else. I believe they were just making friendly conversation. I’m sure everyone remembers that... even the admin commented about it. No need to be that way.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:19 pm

I think that you two should stop talking to each other on this forum. Is this possible? What's arguing going to achieve?

RipRokken · Post by **RipRokken** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:26 pm

doublev2 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:19 pm I think that you two should stop talking to each other on this forum. Is this possible? What's arguing going to achieve?

I’m game. Thank you for the suggestion.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:31 pm

Agreed

LUDIVINE · Post by **LUDIVINE** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:36 pm

doublev2 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:19 pm I think that you two should stop talking to each other on this forum. Is this possible? What's arguing going to achieve?

He will talk alone now ! He needs attention !

By the way, when you talk here I don't tell you to stop.

I won't talk here anymore, I just hope that some members won't bring the posts I share elsewhere here, like it happened the last time !!!!

BengalWACO · Post by **BengalWACO** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:18 pm

I came to check in on Vinnie because I have Facebook, probably am not in his official group. I don't follow things that closely but man, I am so confused and have so many questions now. I just hope Vinnie is doing well and has a great party. I hope it takes place. Wowsers.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:07 am

Hmmm...
Same person causing trouble but... LET FREEDOM ROCK !

BengalWACO · Post by **BengalWACO** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:00 am

poserboy71 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:07 am Hmmm...
Same person causing trouble but... LET FREEDOM ROCK !

Poserboy71, if you are referring to me you couldn't be more wrong. If you aren't I apologize. That being said I cannot wait to see Vinnie play again. I have only been able to see him online but each time I was so happy to see him doing what he was doing. I hope their can be video of him at Birthday Bash! Rock and Roll

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:31 am

BengalWACO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:00 am
poserboy71 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:07 am Hmmm...
Same person causing trouble but... LET FREEDOM ROCK !
Poserboy71, if you are referring to me you couldn't be more wrong. If you aren't I apologize. That being said I cannot wait to see Vinnie play again. I have only been able to see him online but each time I was so happy to see him doing what he was doing. I hope their can be video of him at Birthday Bash! Rock and Roll

With 11 posts , Im not sure it's possible to start, be in the middle of, or finish any kind of trouble.
Ot wasn't aimed at you.
Amazed you thought it was.

As for Vinnie playing, I doubt he will release any footage of the B-Day Bash.
It devalues the event for the folks who paid top dollar.