Vinnie's expectations

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Vinnie's expectations

Postby poserboy71 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:19 pm

Tom,
How many times did you meet with Vinnie to get his exact requirements for his AZG guitars that you paid and built for NAMM 2011 ?
He must have been a stickler for details and measurements. I bet he came to your workshop a lot and accrued many airline miles getting everything JUST RIGHT.

Did he offer any of his instruments to you as comparison?
Any photographs of you and Vinnie Any of his classic guitars?
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:48 am

In 2010-2011 I never once met with Vinnie except on the phone and computer. I did a lot of layout work in my 2D CAD program and just sent drawings back and forth. He did provide photos of the Jackson Silver / Purple from which I extrapolated a lot of info about the guitar plus he sent me an outline of it from which to get a base to start with. I got the basic dimensions from that line drawing and filled in the rest myself.

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby doublev2 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:39 am

Great stuff. So vv sent you an outline drawing of the Jackson?
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby Genebaby » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:40 am

Vinnie really embraced the modern era didn't he? Do it all long distance.

His record for perfection makes that interesting, you would think he would have been all over the design and build process.

On second thought, maybe it was better he didn't. :)
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby poserboy71 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:37 am

Pics huh ? :wink:
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:51 am

I'll look for the photos and get them posted.

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby poserboy71 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:58 am

Thanks TOM !!!!
I'll look for the photos and get them posted.
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby Genebaby » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:03 pm

The silver/purple, sweet!!!
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby Streetbeat » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:11 pm

rust on the bolts?

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby Slayer » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:36 am

Here is the proof that the purple one used to be pink

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby doublev2 » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:44 am

Wow. Where and when were those taken?
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby doublev2 » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:45 am

It also proves the neck pick up was added. I believe for sure he only had 2 Jackson vv models.
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:16 am

Those photos were shot by the Vin-man his-self and emailed to me so I could see the detail areas on the guitar and the general construction methods. Once I had the basic layout drawn up I was able to do a pretty good job of building the copies as close as possible to the originals. On the Carvin model I had to find as much detail reference on the web as I could and went from there. All of the headstocks were obviously copies of the 92 PEAR as were the fretboard inlays. Speaking of those, on the Gold Leaf model I used Gold Mother of Pearl for the inlays and on the Neon Pink one I use what's called Abalam. These guys somewhere in Asia take very thin slices of Abalone, match up the grain and color then glue them into large sheets of Abalone. The stuff looks pretty damn good and from them can be cut some real nice full piece inlays.

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby shramiac » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:56 am

Wow! Thanks for those pictures, Tom!

Yes Kev! Pictures prove the pink one became the silver one!

Wonder what became of the dot neck, taped up version?
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby tukoztukoz » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:30 am

Thanks TOM !!!!
I'll look for the photos and get them posted.
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I thought I copied those pics, but couldn't find them on my pc. Now I cannot open them here :( . Is it possible to have them back? Please :D !
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:39 pm

I've been real busy lately and will find those pics and repost at the earliest possible moment.
Keep watching . . . .

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby poserboy71 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:00 pm

I've been real busy lately and will find those pics and repost at the earliest possible moment.
Keep watching . . . .
Stay busy !!!! :D
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby tukoztukoz » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:03 am

I've been real busy lately and will find those pics and repost at the earliest possible moment.
Keep watching . . . .
Stay busy !!!! :D
Thanks a lot, I'll keep watching...
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby evh5150 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:33 pm

I know this is old but I just found it, A lot of those pics that vinnie took won't show up it just says image. I would love to see these if there is any way to re post them.

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:06 am

I'll look through my collection and see if I can find them myself and re-post them.

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby evh5150 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:42 am

that would be awesome

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby evh5150 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:57 pm

did you find your pictures :D

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:45 am

I found some but I'm looking to see if I have more before I post.
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby evh5150 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:56 pm

awesome!!!!

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:37 am

OK evh5150, here's what I've got . . . .

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby Streetbeat » Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:11 am

Seems like Vinnie was a lot into scale models

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby tukoztukoz » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:46 am

or 3D puzzles?
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby shramiac » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:47 am

Seems like Vinnie was a lot into scale models
Yeah, looks like a model car box, a Rodan box, a LOT of paint bottles........ Vinnie's artistic side?

See the Floyd posts were upgraded when the guitar got repainted......... ugh, that front pickup install!
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby evh5150 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:52 am

Very cool..... when were these sent? That poor guitar doesn't look like it's been touched in years.

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:21 am

The photos were emailed to me somewhere in mid 2010 and since Vinnie was locked in mortal combat with Kiss
he had some of his friends hold onto, to hide in other words, his guitars so Kiss or the court couldn't get their
hands on them. Then he would tell everyone that he didn't have them anymore. So I presume that he still has
possession of them in one way or another.

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby evh5150 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:03 am

wow, that is crazy. Is that the one that use to be pink. I think it's the boys are gonna rock guitar?

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:08 am

Yes, that's the one that was pink. whoever repainted it put a piece of tape in the spring cavity
to save the fact that is was "the"pink one. Vinnie must have made the change for V V I .

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby evh5150 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:12 pm

great story, thanks for sharing

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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby doublev2 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:53 pm

Tom thanks. is it possible the dot inlay vv could have gone back and had the inlays changed? or is that too big of a job? It could be he only had one VV jackson.
The other thing i will say is that years ago a photo existed of the dot inlay doublev v jackson in pink, not white tape , but i have not seen that picture since around 2006
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby shramiac » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:12 pm

Doesn't look like there is neck binding on the dot neck, so that'd mean it's a different guitar.
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby doublev2 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:51 pm

Ok so can not be added at later date?
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Re: Vinnie's expectations

Postby AZGuitars » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:07 am

The frets would have to be pulled first then the binding channel cut and the binding glued in and shaped to the FB radius. Next the only way to put in new inlays might be to use some flexible faux pearl inlay material to conform to the FB radius. And, that's part of it. Last but not least refretting and leveling them and lot of work just to mess up the guitar. You could also cut the original neck off route a neck pocket then buy and install a
bolt-on neck. Although you may want to buy the neck first then do the rest. Warmouth always has some nice necks that you can buy too.


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