Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

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Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby poserboy71 » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:50 am

Since we have started talking about this technique, let's share our favorite examples and try to find the earliest example we can.

Who originated this technique? Was it Hendrix, Beck, Townshend, Gillis, Vai ?

My favorite flutters :
The VVI discs had great moments in fluttered history
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK5WKqXfoHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sJZySscJhU
At the very end of the song----
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYyuK2JcaSg
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby shramiac » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:16 am

Ashes to Ashes when Vinnie plays the descending whole tone scale flutters at the end of the solo!
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby tukoztukoz » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:27 am

by shramiac » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:10 am




tukoztukoz wrote:
It seems he didn’t flutter with Kiss and before Kiss

There is live footage from the LIU tour where Vinnie is doing it during his solo! Gillis and Vai are best known for it though.


Not surprised at all if Beck was doing it though. In the movie Twins, he is in the house band at a club (Arnie, "But you're forgetting the second rule of combat"!) and he has a little flutter during the solo whilst playing a Strat....what he recorded the song with in the studio though...who knows?
That’s right, I should have said on studio albums. Maybe Gene and Paul didn’t like it ? I think Gene would have loved a Vinnie flutter on « Fits like a glove » for example, when he says « It’s just like a hot knife - FLUTTER- through… ». Flutter sounds so wild...
Did Vinnie use this technique live on Creatures tour? Not sure.

About the movie Twins, I've read that one of the two twins is named "Vincent" :!: the other twin had it all from the scientific/genetic experiment, ...
They said the movie came out in 1988. I don't know every Jeff Beck record, but I remember hearing flutter in "Flash" 1985 and Mick Jagger's "Primitive Cool" 1987. I've read somewhere on this forum that Jeff Beck ordered one of the first twenty Jackson. Maybe he developped his technique with that guitar, until Fender designed the new two point trem a few years later?
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby rock1ankh » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:59 am

This here is a good example of this technique, did not know it was called FLUTTER, always call the Whammy bar technique hahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koLi5I5mrTQ

Steve stevens uses a similar technique in the video, it's very complicated to do, need a good floyd rose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHREgewRLS4

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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby tukoztukoz » Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:50 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM2MkPCdOMs

I thought there was no flutter on the Lick it up album. I was wrong, Vinnie uses it at 2.09 on Gimme more for example, and on other songs too (I listened to that great record today...).
Nice pictures here on this video...
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby poserboy71 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:44 am

TT, I am not sure if the example at 2:09 is truly a flutter. It just sounds like some quick Vinnie whammy damage.
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby shramiac » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:02 pm

No, it is flutter.
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby tukoztukoz » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:38 am

It's less obvious than on Animal, it's true. Maybe the '83 trem he used was tired and didn't flutter a lot, like some Fender Jazzmaster with a floating trem (flutters, but very discretly).

Too bad Vinnie doesn't talk about this directly...
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Re: Whammy bar technique-FLUTTER

Postby tukoztukoz » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:53 am

See at 1.30. Brad Gillis tells about how he discovered flutter. Brlrphh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovVk9Ataeh4
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