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Marty Friedman

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:09 am
by tukoztukoz
I've never paid much attention to Marty Friedman, but since I've got interested in buying a Jackson Ke 1 Marty Friedman, I've checked some his videos on youtube. Great player!

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:15 am
by doublev2
I loved him. He used to write to me via his fan club from 1987 way before anyone knew who he was. Cacophony were super obscure until Marty joined Megadeth and they were still obscure until the internet got big as far as I know.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:18 am
by doublev2
there is a slight VVI connection with Marty. Marty produced and played on APOCRYPHA - The Eyes Of Time, an early version of this band featured Mark Slaughter on the vocals and he also wore those tight mouth pants with them in a photo.

If you hear Eyes of Time you can easily spot Friedman and also the guitar player at that time was a sort of copy of Friedman somewhat in style.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:38 pm
by Hummarstra
Friedman is one of my all time faves. Just brilliant, unpredictable and plays from his heart. I personally feel that both Cacophony albums are amongst the best guitar recordings of all time.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:09 pm
by tukoztukoz
Cool! I remember seing Friedman, Mustaine, Batio and co in Guitar for the pract. Musician I suscribed in the late eighties... After a while, all of them were just like the same to me, I lost interest in metal at the time and went to other styles. Today it's cool to discover the ones that really have something more than the others.
Same thing happened with VV, I didn't listen to any VV or Invasion track from 1990 to 2011 !!!

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:51 pm
by shramiac
Hah. Had a few days off five weeks ago to travel to Sydney to catch Dream Theater.
As usual, headed over to Utopia Records to pick up a few CDs. Marty’s new one was one of the ones I picked up. Only listened to it today for the first time! Some ripper stuff on there. Nice he gets a violinist and a cellist to play some of his licks.
Found Cacophony a hard listen because of the singer, remember laughing when I first heard them. Been a while since I gave them a spin......20 years I’d guess!
Marty & Jason we’re superb together. I can listen to 1990/94 Megadeth any time, any where.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:52 pm
by tukoztukoz
Friedman's videos are really interesting.
About Marty's sig guitar, how much do you think it's worth? No trem, just one PU, that' s what makes me hesitate... I saw one or two on ebay and reverb, but I can't figure what price would be acceptable...
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Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:17 pm
by shramiac
His Kellys were pretty basic. Like Dave, he had the Kahler that looked like but wasn't actually a trem! Prefer him with a Kelly rather than the Jackson Les Paul knock-off signature model he's using now. Also can't believe he stuck with 22 frets for the production model either??? His main player (the prototype I guess?) is a 24 fretter. Funnily enough, his main Megadeth Kelly was a 22 fretter! :lol:

Coudn't say what that'd be worth though tbh. I had a look and the price IS up there isn't it! :shock: :shock: :shock: Guessing there wasn't a heap of them made?

Kelly/Explorer/Destroyer shaped guitars can be a tad awkward to play if you you have any sort of belly! Which none of us have, as we're all fitness freaks! :P :P :P

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:29 pm
by tukoztukoz
:lol: i bought running shoes years ago and never used them... if I put them on, with the Kelly on my belly, that will maybe work... :lol:
I wonder if it's possible to fix a Kahler trem on that guitar, without any modification on the body. Seems possible...
There was a Ferrari red on reverb at a fairly high price. The ad said "it was very rare, which is not the case of the black/trans black /or white KE1's", as if there was plenty of these being sold...
i couldn't find the original price of the KE1 MF too.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:10 pm
by shramiac
tukoztukoz wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:29 pm Think a lot of us have a case of "Kelly Belly"! :( :( :( :( :lol: :lol: :lol:


I wonder if it's possible to fix a Kahler trem on that guitar, without any modification on the body. Seems possible...

That'd be a big NO!!! Kahlers have a big route underneath them to fit all the spring mechanism. The non trem versions are just top mounted.

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There was a Ferrari red on reverb at a fairly high price. The ad said "it was very rare, which is not the case of the black/trans black /or white KE1's", as if there was plenty of these being sold...
i couldn't find the original price of the KE1 MF too.

Yeah, that red one was $4000+

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:09 am
by tukoztukoz
Ok, thanks!
That kahler bridge is really strange, looks like a trem but no...

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:59 am
by doublev2
His red carvin sold for very little in a charity event about 10 years ago. Like 500 bucks or something.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:01 pm
by Genebaby
tukoztukoz wrote:Ok, thanks!
That kahler bridge is really strange, looks like a trem but no...
Yes, it's not a direct, easy fit, but you could get the hole required to fit the trem version of the bridge and that would look factory.

The other issue is the lock nut. Either mod for a Floyd nut, or use the Kahler nut that locks after the regular nut, which would suit.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:22 am
by tukoztukoz
I won't have to lose myself into Kahler bridges, because I tried to buy that Kelly, but someone bid more than what I did for it...
Now I'm open for another guitar. Don't know what or when, we'll see.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:01 pm
by doublev2
This is great


Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:59 pm
by Genebaby
Ah, the 80's....

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:47 pm
by doublev2
becker was still in his teens i think and Friedman early 20s

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:44 pm
by Cernex
doublev2 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:18 am there is a slight VVI connection with Marty. Marty produced and played on APOCRYPHA - The Eyes Of Time, an early version of this band featured Mark Slaughter on the vocals and he also wore those tight mouth pants with them in a photo.

If you hear Eyes of Time you can easily spot Friedman and also the guitar player at that time was a sort of copy of Friedman somewhat in style.


You mean this one? Oh, I have something new to listen while driving at work. Thanks!

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:13 pm
by doublev2
Yes. Some of the guys were in mark Slaughter's band. Area 54 is a more polished album of theirs

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:24 am
by tukoztukoz
Just found one of those KE1. Cool guitar!
Pachebel impro with hybrid picking derived from VV...

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:36 pm
by Genebaby
You got a KE1? Congratulations!!

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:55 pm
by tukoztukoz
Thanks boss! I have to take some pics of it

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:30 pm
by tukoztukoz
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Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:36 am
by tukoztukoz
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Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:15 am
by Slayer
That is a beauty!

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:27 am
by Kuron
Awesome guitar!!

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:51 am
by tukoztukoz
Thanks!
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Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:53 am
by tukoztukoz
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...Can't post every pics at the same time...

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:08 am
by Genebaby
That's a very nice Jackson, congrats on getting it man.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:30 am
by Kuron
i have always loved that body shape.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:10 am
by shramiac
HOLY WARS!!!!!!! :P :D

Nice find. Congrats.

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:33 am
by tukoztukoz
Thanks again !
Jackson necks and fretboards are great. Love the sort of thick poly paint too

Re: Marty Friedman

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:43 am
by Kuron
tukoztukoz wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:33 am Jackson necks and fretboards are great.

The best acoustic I ever owned (regardless of price) was a Charvel by Jackson. Gorgeous black finish, cutaway, no pickup and the neck and fretboard were smooth as could be. That is one of two guitars I regret selling.