Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

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Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

Postby VinceVandergraff » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:14 pm

After many listens to Vinnie's pre-KISS material recorded with Vinnie delivering the lead vocals, I've come to the conclusion that Gene borrowed highly from Vinnie's vocal harmonies, delivery, and approach, and continued this pattern in his own songs after Vinnie left the band. For sure I cannot be alone in believing this. I'm not just talking about the songs Vinnie co-wrote either. Everyone knows the classic KISS pre-'78 era, however going past that into Dynasty, Unmasked, and The Elder, Gene hadn't yet delivered the kind of vocal style as he does when Vinnie came into the picture on Creatures, or Lick It Up. Gene has said before that Vinnie was a great writer, but I think he was understating the impact of Vinnie to avoid the thought or notion about just how much Vinnie did for them as musicians. KISS was a rock n' roll band before Vinnie, and to me it more seems that KISS was a 'metal' band while Vinnie was there, or much closer to that edge. It's no secret Vinnie was inspired by Rhoads and Van Halen, and certainly wanted to be a part of that guitar-hero driven club, all the while he personally felt the need to be accepted by the fans, and surpass Ace as a guitarist and musician. I've wondered about the other songs Vinnie presented/submitted to KISS back then to play, and it would be great to hear those demos. Had he stuck with KISS, they would have surely had better songs in the rest of the 80's. I see a big parallel between 'God Of Thunder', which was Gene's staple anthem of the 70's era, and 'Unholy' which in my personal opinion was the best Gene song since the LIU tracks.

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Re: Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

Postby shramiac » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:36 am

Could well be right!

Vinnie influenced Gene's writing...Fits Like a Glove is very Vinnieish with its "flat 5" chording.
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Re: Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:21 pm

Gene's vocals for the Creatures and LIU albums is amazing, but so is Paul's. The material pushed the whole band to be it's best, it's always great to listen to that stuff.
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Re: Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

Postby BigEd » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:50 pm

Last night I took my Boy's out for Burger's & Beer's, my Son sneaks over to the Jukebox and plays "A Million to One"....the combination of Vinnie's Guitar Work & Eric's Drumming is Amazing, only to be highlighted by Paul "at his best" Vocal Performance....This song clearly should have been released as a single and would have been a Mega-Hit for them !

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Re: Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

Postby Streetbeat » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:02 am

Gene's vocals had to change, cookie monster breaks after they tuned on a higher key.
So he adapted live to his "Animalize Live" singing style. COTN/LIU Tours were a test for his singing style
then he realized how much the cookie monster breaks at a higher key.

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Re: Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

Postby shramiac » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:10 pm

Gene's vocals had to change, cookie monster breaks after they tuned on a higher key.
So he adapted live to his "Animalize Live" singing style. COTN/LIU Tours were a test for his singing style
then he realized how much the cookie monster breaks at a higher key.

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Re: Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

Postby tukoztukoz » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:38 am

"Burn bitch burn" : Gene got really funny without Vinnie!!! I remember reading the lyrics at the time, and I had a real good laugh with this song
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Re: Gene's vocals after writing with Vinnie

Postby Slayer » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:52 am

Put my log in your fireplace - must be the pinnacle of Gene's lyrical career


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