★Kiss- Hell or Hallelujah Preview★

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:57 pm

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PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:04 pm

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shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:09 pm

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:20 pm

It's ballsy, I can give it that much for now.

Iceman75 · Post by **Iceman75** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:31 pm

I like it.
Sounds like KISS in '77.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:02 pm

Pyromax · Post by **Pyromax** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:25 am

Not Impressed at all....

ankh · Post by **ankh** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:16 pm

to think that they are still selling with this kind of stuff.............while somebody talented is not publishing anything.............

BigEd · Post by **BigEd** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:26 pm

If the rest of the album is like this, they can be the warm-up band for Vinnie when he goes on tour !!!

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:50 pm

Post by **Genebaby** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:13 pm

Man, if only they were writing with Vinnie again. Sigh....

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:06 pm

It sounds OK so far, but Paul's voice still has that "just getting over laryngitis" sound and I'm not feeling the chorus...it's not as bad as the chorus from the song Psycho Circus and I haven't heard the entire thing, obviously. Musically and production I am liking.

jesternjeff · Post by **jesternjeff** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:42 pm

Sounds alright, I mean you cant expect much from such a short preview !

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:04 pm

Not a long enough sample for me to be able to form an opinion. I hope that this isn't yet another album of Tommy Thayer aping Ace Frehley.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:37 am

Will it be better than hell or high water?

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:12 pm

FULL VERSION

ROCKIN'

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PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:41 pm

poserboy71 wrote: FULL VERSION
ROCKIN'
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Pretty good... wonder if Vinnie has heard it?

jesternjeff · Post by **jesternjeff** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:29 pm

Im actually really impressed ! Tommy doesn't sound like he is emulating Ace ( Sonic Boom ) but, rather showcasing Aces sound & technique ( on this track. ) Hope to hear more. If it sounds anything like this it should be great !

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:24 pm

What was that? I listen out of interest rather than like it. It's ok for an album filler in my mind. For me the 'sing it one more time' stuff totally ruins it.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:32 pm

Doesn't come close to the great kiss tunes of 74 thru to 87.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:35 pm

That said no bands are making as good a music as they did in the 70s/80s so its not bad in that respect

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:49 pm

Van Halen's last album is really good. Older,reworked material and new stuff combined.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:45 pm

I knew I shouldn't have made such a bold statement. Haha

wolfgang161272 · Post by **wolfgang161272** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:11 pm

Now the song is out in Germany,too.
The song is good but is NOT a killer tune. Nice work but that's it. But better than the stuff on Sonic Boom I think.
I hope to hear more stuff from the upcoming album. We will see how good the album will be.
I like the up tempo stuff a bit more

Wolfi

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:15 pm

I would be nice for an epic ballad like I still love you .

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:09 am

I like it...but I don't hear it as a single, much less the lead single for an album that has been being hyped for over a year. I like MODERN DAY DELILAH better than this.

1) I will buy this album as I buy all KISS albums
2) I still have hopes for this album despite not thinking the lead single is spectacular. There have been many KISS albums in the past where the best songs were never released.
3) Tommy is still aping Ace. Not as overtly as on Sonic Boom. The lead guitar sounds more organic to this song and less like Ace's top 10 most frequently used riffs played in a row and dropped into the song.

BigEd · Post by **BigEd** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:30 am

Kiss said that this album would be a combo of Destroyer & Revenge....I sure hope the rest of the songs are better than this....

1031 · Post by **1031** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:44 am

I dig it !! Not a holy crap moment but , its good.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:00 am

I don't have too much hope if this is thr strongest tune.. why did they not blow us away?

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:08 am

Yes, if only they had a lead song to blow is away, like Unholy did before Revenge, that rocked good and proper.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:26 am

Tattoo from Van Halen was pretty bad and was the single but the rest of the album rocked (except Stay Frosty... oh lord).

Maybe this will be the case with Monster (though Hallelujah imo is a better tune than Tattoo) though I think it'll be another Sonic Boom.

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:47 am

I like Stay Frosty. I just don't think there was a single on the new VH album at all. There are a lot of good songs, just nothing with a nice, catchy radio hook.

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:50 pm

I like this new song but I agree that it doesn't sound like a single. It is really riff orientated like Sonic Boom but in this song Tommy Thayer pretty much kicks ass. His bends are right on pitch and I dig some of the chromatic licks that he throws in between the predictable pentatonic licks. I didn't think that on this song that he particularly sounds like Ace.

BTW - I'm digging the new Van Halen too - Go Rick Schobel!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:06 am

Tattoo is a simple pop song that was meant to appeal to the laymen. Similar in the lack of harshness as JUMP. It has some really cool elements to it.

Stay Frosty is great . When my kids request certain songs , I know they are winners. The "AHH AHH AHH " part in Stay Frosty is the hook that we sing in the car.

ADKOT is a great album that stands up next to the classic VH albums. The Sammy VH albums had some good tunes but they never made good ALBUMS past 5150.
5150 still hade some DLR residue on it and that is why I believe it is good.

I would really dig it if they gave Dave all of the Sammy/VH tunes without vocals and let him work his magic on them. We would get better lyrics and cocky charisma.
No need to address vocal prowess because Dave's talents within VH are FAR superior.
SWAGGER !!!!
I prefer Sammy solo, especially the early 1980's gems.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:22 am

aaaaaand that leads us back to where we started...

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erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:56 am

poserboy71 wrote:The Sammy VH albums had some good tunes but they never made good ALBUMS past 5150.
5150 still hade some DLR residue on it and that is why I believe it is good.

I disagree. I think OU812 is a great, raw album. It feels like a bunch of amazing musicians jamming away and having the best times of their lives. Some of VH's best songs on that album.

After that, I agree with you. The cracks in the armor were already showing during FUCK. It was full meltdown by BALANCE. (Terrible, terrible album.)

Post by **Genebaby** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:25 am

Yes, why did I buy Balance? FUCK was good. I dug Sammy in VH up until then.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:49 am

OU812 sounds premeditated , bland, and uninspired to me.The production/mix blows.
FUCK (2nd best Sammy/VH album) reintroduced the inspiration but fell short as a complete album to me.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:41 am

I love VH's Balance! I've been listening to it over the last 2 weeks!!! Ed had a great tone on it! And Alex's drum tone was fantastic!

I love F.U.C.K too though!

OU812 is what Rick said!

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:07 pm

I always interpreted the sound & vibe of OU812 as being loose, minimal production...like 4 guys jamming in a rehearsal space and they rolled tape. I hear 4 guys that are having a blast playing together and aren't concerned with perfection.

I find FUCK to be stiff and lacking spontaneity. There are great songs on it, but there's not much of that classic VH sense of "fun"...flying by the seat of their pants. Up until then every VH album felt like an audio party. FUCK sounds premeditated and calculated.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:58 pm

I remember two interviews where vv says he loves van Halen , one saying he likes Sammy Hagar.

Vickie · Post by **Vickie** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:21 am

Hell or Hallelujah isn´t a sensation but I think it´s okay, I like it.
Paul sounds very good to me, as good as usual. But okay, I must confess I love his voice and anyway he´s the main reason why I´m listening to Kiss.

jesternjeff · Post by **jesternjeff** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:14 am

I think people here are expecting to much, even Paul himself said its just a solid rock album. I dont believe he said it would be a milestone .... maybe Gene said that but, he say's that about every album. At least Paul can admit Unmasked was a stinker ! This song is good and as I mentioned before and everybody here then repeated the same thing. Tommy sounds great and isnt emulating Ace like he did on Sonic Boom , he is showcasing Ace's sound and techniques and Im all for that ! Hope its only as good as Paul claims it is and that is a good rock album.

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:59 am

But it could always be so much more. Their best work could be waiting, just need the right writer.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:55 pm

jesternjeff wrote:I think people here are expecting to much, even Paul himself said its just a solid rock album. I dont believe he said it would be a milestone .... maybe Gene said that but, he say's that about every album. At least Paul can admit Unmasked was a stinker ! This song is good and as I mentioned before and everybody here then repeated the same thing. Tommy sounds great and isnt emulating Ace like he did on Sonic Boom , he is showcasing Ace's sound and techniques and Im all for that ! Hope its only as good as Paul claims it is and that is a good rock album.

Paul has never admitted that Unmasked is a stinker as far as I know... Gene says he hates it but not Paul... for cryin out loud Paul still plays Shandi live!

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:26 pm

It's Jeff that thinks Unmasked is a stinker, while some of us just love it.

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:53 pm

Here it is at the London show from last night.

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I agree with a poster on Youtube, I can hear I Stole Your Love in it now.

jesternjeff · Post by **jesternjeff** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:05 am

PinkWiz wrote:
jesternjeff wrote:I think people here are expecting to much, even Paul himself said its just a solid rock album. I dont believe he said it would be a milestone .... maybe Gene said that but, he say's that about every album. At least Paul can admit Unmasked was a stinker ! This song is good and as I mentioned before and everybody here then repeated the same thing. Tommy sounds great and isnt emulating Ace like he did on Sonic Boom , he is showcasing Ace's sound and techniques and Im all for that ! Hope its only as good as Paul claims it is and that is a good rock album.
Paul has never admitted that Unmasked is a stinker as far as I know... Gene says he hates it but not Paul... for cryin out loud Paul still plays Shandi live!

Just because he still plays Shandi doesnt mean he didn't like the album. They got really lucky w/ that song thanks to the Aussies ! Paul has mentioned it was a bad album cuz no one band member knew where they were at. They were trying to please critics, Peter was out, Ace didnt want to be there, Gene was enjoying the attention based around the hype of being w/ Diana Ross rather then the sound of KISS. Thats why Paul has said it was a disaster.... every Kiss fan knows this ! Why you always want to debate w/ me Pinkwiz ?

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:18 am

I think its a good album. Naked city is one of genes best 80s songs..

jesternjeff · Post by **jesternjeff** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:27 am

Personally I like some of the songs ( Is That You , Shandi and a couple of Ace tracks. As far as the songs there not the KIss sound that I was used too but, like every other kid I fell into the hype and bought it like I do every Kiss album. lol I prefer the Elder over Unmasked myself.