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Best: And on the 8th day (Lick it up)
Worst: Boomerang (Hot in the shade)

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Best: Heaven's On Fire (Animalize)
For me, this song represents the best kind of stripped down, pure sound, Keep It Simple Stupid but nicely composed at the same time kind of sound KISS should have had. I could've also picked the stylistically similar LICK IT UP, but I honestly think HOF is a better written song. This should've been a blueprint for Asylum, but they got full of themselves.

Worst: Burn Bitch Burn (Animalize)
On the same album, terrible lyrics, awful vocal, hodgepodge composition. This and Asylum represent some of the worst Gene songs.
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BEST: A MILLION TO ONE (LIU):
I've already explained this but it's the strongest KISS power ballad ever, killer songwriting by Paul and Vinnie, killer solo, killer production... goosebump factor 1000 %! Perfect tune.
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WORST: CADILLAC DREAMS (Hot In The Shade):
Ugh, what the f**k was Gene thinking? Just listen, you'll know what I mean. Actually, don't listen, you'll regret it. Bruce hates this tune too...
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PW, I agree with your WORST pick. As for BEST tune- I haven't a clue what to choose.
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Best: All Hells Breakin' Loose (Lick it Up)

Worst: Trial by Fire (Asylum)
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Hmmm.... I like all the songs mentioned....I think I have problems. Lol.
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Genebaby wrote:Hmmm.... I like all the songs mentioned....I think I have problems. Lol.
I know whatcha mean... it's kinda like slappin one of your kids chosing a worst KISS tune... :P
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Best: Exciter
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I am going to sound like a wus here.

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Worst . FOREVER
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If it was a question of best kiss and worst of the 80s then I say..

BEST.. I STILL LOVE YOU
WORST .. NO NO NO
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doublev2 wrote:WORST .. NO NO NO
I could never judge NO NO NO as worst because of Eric Carr's drum part. I agree that, as a song it's weak, but the performance redeems it a little for me.
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RE : no no no. i think it was the hype around it just before the release. I thought it would be the best kiss tune ever from what gene said.
I got to say a lot of the Gene tunes from the non make up era I don't remember enough to say they were the worst.
He has one or two bad ones on Animalize if I remember.

The worst all time song Kiss made for me is that ballad Peter sang in the reunion album.
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Yes!!!!! That Paul penned song they made Peter sing was truly awful and I cast my vote for worst song for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hate that song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I Finally Found My Way...is just gosh awful. It's formulaic, uninspired and boring.
The Psycho Circus album in general always gets me upset. To hear Gene & Paul blowing about how the "best songs" were chosen, and then to hear the songs on the album...I'd hate to hear the ideas that DIDN'T make it!!!
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If it involves worst KISS song ever (makeup or none) then yes... I Finally Found My Way... what a shitty thrown together Stanley/Ezrin penned piece of crap. Not to mention Peter's shitty vocals... so outta key. All of Paul's ballads from 1989 onward suck too imo... especially that one on COS... I Will Be There. I know it's about his son or whatever but damn that song and the vocal on it... ugh.
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This is off the topic a bit cause I can't make up my mind which non make up KISS is Best or worst, but I do know one thing. In the same breath 'X in Sex' was lame & 'Rock Hard' was awesome. Hate that Syth bass line & pretend Horns section in 'X in Sex'. Good tile for a song, the clip is cool & Bruce's Purple Esp is killer. That's about it.
And pretty much for me, every Gene song expect the ones Vinnie wrote were crapola. I can listen to Animalize, Crazy Nights & Asylum in about 20mins per CD.
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I almost like I WILL BE THERE. It's decent but goes on a little too long and the shrieking vocals at the end do not suit the song and are grating.

X in Sex and Rock Hard are both decent songs that needed a little more work and real production with 2guitars, 1bass and drums...no synths. I don't think they'd be the greatest KISS songs ever, but they'd be more listenable now and could fit into any of their tour set-lists.
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For some reason I always liked Rock Hard... has a catchy bridge.

X in Sex... not so much.
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Best song: Exciter!!! For me the best KISS song ever. I can here this song 10.000 times and it have a unbelivable vibe!

Worst song: Brun Bich Burn (uh uhhhh) that's a terrible song. Not a good chorus not a good bridge and not good verses,,
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wolfgang161272 wrote:Worst song: Brun Bich Burn (uh uhhhh) that's a terrible song. Not a good chorus not a good bridge and not good verses,,
Same one for me, Wolfgang. Patchwork song structure, ridiculous lyrics even by KISS standards and weak vocal performance by Gene.
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I like quite a few of genes 80s tunes but not burn birch burn .
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if i remeber well, some gene songs form Animalize needed to be reworked by the rest of the group........i could only image what they were before that :?
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I would say lick it up: and on the 8th day
worst: I dont have a worst
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Interesting , I have never heard anyone say 8th day before.. isn't that the solo gene merged many different vv solos together? I remember vinnie saying that tune really got hacked at and messed up. Not sure how vv still feels.
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if i remember well, david snowden mentioned that Vinnie considered "and on the 8th day" bogus because of what Gene did on his original song.
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I have just listened to heavens on fire again and I think that's the best song
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Good Memory. I have an interview with vv saying that some of the solos were messed around with and not how he played them.
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I have listened to "and on the 8th day" again and it does sound messed up in parts of solos so I think heavens on fire is the best one
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Sorry but is their a solo in heavens on fire?
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I'm just saying heavens on fire is a nice stripped down song
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Jag I thought this was the best solo thread my mistake.
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I know it still is I went a bit of track
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Haha . I am off track . Best guitar solo out of lick it up or heavens on fire ?
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doublev2 wrote:Haha . I am off track . Best guitar solo out of lick it up or heavens on fire ?

hmmm, they're both so technical and innovative it's hard to choose...

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Best: Heart of Chrome (I think. I hate the words but musically... wow!)
Worst: Read My Body-"Turn the Page, get to the good stuff!" Really?
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Best: I Had Enough (that effin' solo and that intro, JESUS! And that singing by Paul...)
Worst: Dance All Over Your Face (too dull)
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