SOME MEMORIES FROM BACK IN THE DAY

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:35 am

A while back someone with the screen name kirky666 (didn't want to give his real first name)
messaged me and ask me if I could upload some pics/scans of any ticket stubs I had from the
4 VVI shows I had attended from '86-88. I told him I would as soon as I got a chance. Sorry it has taken me so long but here they are. I also added a few other pages from the book that were relevant to the time and those
particular shows. The things that are missing from each collection of memorabilia are :

1) actual pics from the Hammerjacks show (the club did not allow cameras)
2) the ticket stub from the Bayou, Wash, D.C show (paid at the door, no stub)

MY ORIGINAL FAN CLUB MEMBERSHIP CHARTER (I decided against signing it on member line)

AND FOR gonnarock : my avatar pic

Post by **Genebaby** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:43 am

Nice collection, thanks for sharing.

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:44 am

Thank you so much for your avatar picture!!!

And now,

YOU HAVE HOT PINK VINNIE VINCENT GUITAR PICKS OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want one haha. Wow! Thank you so much for sharing all of this and your experience, you are very lucky indeed.

I have one of Vinnie's black guitar picks!

But one of the hot pink ones is amazing. And your pictures are GREAT from the shows! I wish so much I could see a VVI show!!!

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:51 am

Thanks, glad you enjoyed them gonnarock.... Wish I had the time and energy to upload the entire scrapbook.
All 4 members signed the inside cover of it for me. Unfortunately, it's just too much stuff to scan and upload all at one time. It's been so long since kirky666 asked me to do it, I wonder if he even still visits here to see it ??

No problem Vic....always glad to share...... I have all the old fan club stuff as well.

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:54 am

Great job Fred!
I have some stuff like this also but unlike you I'm not sure where I have stashed it over the last 25 years LOL

Kev

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:58 am

LOL Kev...... I was just geeky enough to stick the stuff into a book..... LOL

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:26 am

Great . $5 for entrance. Pretty good.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:40 am

Thanks for the upload
i will get busy for 10 minutes now

Post by **Genebaby** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:43 am

Sammy has a new avatar!

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:47 am

Genebaby wrote:Sammy has a new avatar!

Its very nice.

Iceman75 · Post by **Iceman75** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:47 am

VV played a BC Rich?

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:51 am

it was Paul Stanley's. Either his guitar had problems or didn't show up because of that huge snow storm. We are not sure.

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:36 am

Great pics. Too bad they weren't able to parlay that opening spot on Alice's tour into greater success...but obviously the whole Robert/Mark situation kinda killed the marketing for VVI.

Are there any bootlegs of the Invasion from that tour? Audio would be great. Video would be the bees knees.

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:36 pm

What's up erg2..... The only video of VVI that I know of are the 86 N.Y show and the Toronto show from 88.(both bootlegs/audience shot) I do know that Alice Cooper shows were pro-shot while VVI was on the tour with them and I believe Maiden shows were also pro-shot while VVI was with them. It's hard to imagine that nobody shot the opening act during any of those shows. Also, Hammerjacks routinely filmed all of their shows with in-house video and I am sure other clubs that VVI played at did as well. I am surprised that nothing has surfaced to this point.

Post by **Genebaby** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:30 pm

It is surprising that after all this time that no pro shot footage has surfaced. I guess we can still hope it will one day. Someone will open a box and see a tape that says VVI on it, and it will finally get into circulation.

It's too bad that is not a lesson Vinnie learned from his Kiss days, to video record things for study and the future. Kiss have footage going WAY back.

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:53 pm

Genebaby wrote:It is surprising that after all this time that no pro shot footage has surfaced. I guess we can still hope it will one day. Someone will open a box and see a tape that says VVI on it, and it will finally get into circulation.

It's too bad that is not a lesson Vinnie learned from his Kiss days, to video record things for study and the future. Kiss have footage going WAY back.

KISS always recorded everything. I always found that so intriguing about them, and that added with the philosophy that it was more for themselves rather than for the fans, because they would have had no way of knowing how successful they would become. Its almost likening it to a professional boxer who reviews his own matches and tries to look for errors or ways to improve.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:58 pm

My dad owned a live venue in late 70s through to mid 80s . Usually bands had contracts to say that the venue could not record or film them, however he did. But you can imagine that most club owners will have so much footage on vhs tape that its either gone or just sitting in storage somewhere . Freddy my dad knows the old owner of hammerjacks , maybe i can ask him ?

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:39 am

doublev2 wrote:My dad owned a live venue in late 70s through to mid 80s . Usually bands had contracts to say that the venue could not record or film them, however he did. But you can imagine that most club owners will have so much footage on vhs tape that its either gone or just sitting in storage somewhere . Freddy my dad knows the old owner of hammerjacks , maybe i can ask him ?

That would be great if you could Dino. Maybe he would have something.

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:42 am

I've seen the audience shot stuff. A lot of it is pretty rough and the sound is gosh-awful. I was talking about the lack of any known pro-shot stuff...or possibly pro-shot stuff that is carefully traded in secret circles.

Wouldn't it be unbelievable if this board were responsible for uncovering some never-before-seen VVI concert video? That would certainly steam Vinnie's lobster!

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:56 am

erg2 wrote:I've seen the audience shot stuff. A lot of it is pretty rough and the sound is gosh-awful. I was talking about the lack of any known pro-shot stuff...or possibly pro-shot stuff that is carefully traded in secret circles.

Wouldn't it be unbelievable if this board were responsible for uncovering some never-before-seen VVI concert video? That would certainly steam Vinnie's lobster!

That would be really cool.

We should try to uncover some. Someway some how.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:03 am

oh, yeah. that costs a lot so i doubt VV had it on the ASG tour , especially playing for 500 people at $5 each.

I believe some of the Alice Cooper shows were pro-recorded including VVI . I was in touch with a guy who says he has some, but I suspect Alice himself has them locked away in his archives if he paid for it.

Post by **Genebaby** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:46 am

I know some big traders and nothing has turned up anywhere yet. Maybe one day but the footage has to exist in the first place.

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:14 pm

Dino,

The guy who owned Hammerjacks was Louie Principato (spelling unsure, but that's close)
My ex-wife tended bar there for 2 years.

The site of the original Hammerjacks was forced to move when Baltimore built it's new football
stadium. The club had already started changing from a rock club into a hip-hop club before the move.
After the 1st move it changed completely and the customer base changed as well. Obviously. LOL
I think the club moved 1 more time after that and I don't believe that Louie owned it the entire time.

I remember when the old building was closing down, they allowed people to go thru and take things that were there. I remember a friend of mine walking into the DJ's room and the floor was littered with band press kits and memorabilia. The video equipment was located in a booth right next to the sound board.
On the 2nd level facing the stage.

The club fed the signal to T.V's all throughout the "Live Side's" 2 levels.
When ever they had paid concerts, they would close the doors between the center of the club.
creating 2 levels of the "Live Side" and 2 levels of a "Club Side".
It would be hard to know if they were actually recording the show, but I know for a fact
that other shows from there have surfaced since then. I seriously doubt Louie himself
would have much if any video from there...but it's possible I suppose.

Funny story about the "Live Side" / "Club Side" situation.
When Gary Moore played there, he became highly irritated on multiple occasions
during his performance. He stopped the show a couple of times. The last time
he stopped the show was when he was attempting to do a very soft guitar intro to
"Parisienne Walkways ". He was being literally drowned out by thumping bass
from the dance music pumping next door in the "Club Side".

After leaving the stage and having a heated exchange with the guys in the DJ booth,
he returned to the stage went to the microphone and said "If I have any friends in the building
tonight, meet me out back after the show because the big guy back there just threaten to kick my ass"

Of course the crowd went nuts and the booing started..... Gary finished the show and was AWESOME !
Great memory.... I consider myself fortunate to have had the chance to see Gary live R.I.P Gary !

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:29 pm

Just another thought on pro-shot video..... I am almost certain that the Alice Cooper concert that aired on MTV in 86 or 87 (Constrictor tour ) was shot while VVI was with them. Possibly some of it shot in Cleveland,Ohio. Much like the KISS Animalize video was partially shot there as well.

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:31 pm

I just realized Dino won't get half of that as he only reads the "1st and last lines" of large posts.
LOL ! Just kidding Dino !

Post by **Genebaby** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:08 pm

FREDDYB3 wrote:I just realized Dino won't get half of that as he only reads the "1st and last lines" of large posts.
LOL ! Just kidding Dino !

Good one!

reneroxx · Post by **reneroxx** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:08 am

check there is markie cool awsome pic with vinnie good stuff that rock

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:00 am

FREDDYB3 wrote:Just another thought on pro-shot video..... I am almost certain that the Alice Cooper concert that aired on MTV in 86 or 87 (Constrictor tour ) was shot while VVI was with them. Possibly some of it shot in Cleveland,Ohio. Much like the KISS Animalize video was partially shot there as well.

The Thrills In The Night video was shot in Cleveland, Ohio.

Animalize:Live Uncensored was at Cobo Hall in Detroit, Michigan.

We have spoken before about the possibility of a video existing from that tour. Vinnie (under one of his screen names) was very excited if we could find the video.
I might be able to SURPRISE everyone here soon.

I'm important and I know people.

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:31 pm

poserboy71 wrote:
FREDDYB3 wrote:Just another thought on pro-shot video..... I am almost certain that the Alice Cooper concert that aired on MTV in 86 or 87 (Constrictor tour ) was shot while VVI was with them. Possibly some of it shot in Cleveland,Ohio. Much like the KISS Animalize video was partially shot there as well.
The Thrills In The Night video was shot in Cleveland, Ohio.

Animalize:Live Uncensored was at Cobo Hall in Detroit, Michigan.

We have spoken before about the possibility of a video existing from that tour. Vinnie (under one of his screen names) was very excited if we could find the video.
I might be able to SURPRISE everyone here soon. I'm important and I know people.

YOU ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

SURPRISE US!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:55 pm

All CAPS----YOU MUST BE VINNIE...

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:03 pm

poserboy71 wrote:All CAPS----YOU MUST BE VINNIE...

YOU WOULD NEVER BELIEVE THIS...VINNIE SHARES THE ACCOUNT WITH ME, GONNAROCK.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:47 am

I'd believe anything at this point. It doesn't phase me.

gonnarock · Post by **gonnarock** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:59 am

poserboy71 wrote:I'd believe anything at this point. It doesn't phase me.

I didn't write that last night.

I go to bed normal hours.

Vinnie's the one that likes to be a night owl.

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:47 am

PB71,
If your impotence bothers you, I can give you the name of a good specialist. Pretty soon you'll be saying, " That ain't no pistol, it's my..."

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:30 am

the famous quote from anyone who has worked or known vv is .. '"with vv, nothing surprises me".

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:16 am

erg2 wrote:PB71,
If your impotence bothers you, I can give you the name of a good specialist. Pretty soon you'll be saying, " That ain't no pistol, it's my..."

Thanks, It's good to know that you've had the same issues...

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:13 am

Brooklyn_Born · Post by **Brooklyn_Born** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:54 am

Some great pics Dannii

n3p · Post by **n3p** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:09 am

Yes, I particularly like Paul Stanley's bra

Brooklyn_Born · Post by **Brooklyn_Born** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:17 am

It's pretty gay hey nick?

n3p · Post by **n3p** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:48 am

Aye!

VVV · Post by **VVV** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:52 pm

I was gong to L'amore's in Brooklyn all the time back in '86 with a couple of friends of mine that moved from Brooklyn to NJ. How the #%@& did I miss seeing VVI live??? Crazy times back then!

Thanks for the pics Freddy

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:13 am

Awesome pics! A few I've never seen before. Unfortunately just not enough great pics of Eric or Vinnie in their make-up!

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:24 am

Yes, awesome pics.

This pic is just badass... I always come back to this lineup, especially in makeup, as my all time favorite KISS lineup. Looks like Eric did some extra teasing on his hair that day... or maybe the humidity in Brazil got to it:

Brooklyn_Born · Post by **Brooklyn_Born** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:32 am

Eric looks great in that pic!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:34 am

yeah, actually reminds me of Rick a little

erg2 · Post by **erg2** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:36 pm

I had never seen that pie act pic before. The band looks awesome.

FREDDYB3 · Post by **FREDDYB3** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:38 am

@ VVV You are welcome Bro. Happy to share. I actually have some pics from that show.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:45 pm

Vinnie and his freshly shaved chest... guess Paul didn't want competition.

1031 · Post by **1031** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:41 am

Great Pics thanks!!!