1997 Press conference MTV coverage?
1997 Press conference MTV coverage?
I recently read bout MTV coverage of Vinnie's 1997 press conference for suing Kiss.
However, I cannot find any video or picture of it.
Did Kiss (Gene and Paul) pulled all of them off internet?
How come there is not a trace of that coverage film on internet?
However, I cannot find any video or picture of it.
Did Kiss (Gene and Paul) pulled all of them off internet?
How come there is not a trace of that coverage film on internet?
Re: 1997 Press conference MTV coverage?
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Re: 1997 Press conference MTV coverage?
You are looking at ,and hearing, a man that got fucked hard and dirty.
Vinnie's speech is very poetic , lyrical, heartfelt, and true .
As the MTV VJ put it, it was ROCK Theater.
Funny how Vinnie just couldn't pull off being the fucker instead of the fuckee.
Is that the main source of his frustration now ?
Deep down(way down), Vinnie has good qualities instilled by his family. When he tries to do what has been done to him, he simply cannot do it convincingly.A true scumbag could pull it off even after you know they have scammed you.
ALL of us here have been royally screwed and maintain a great sense of humanity and family.
How can Vinnie get that back ?
Vinnie's speech is very poetic , lyrical, heartfelt, and true .
As the MTV VJ put it, it was ROCK Theater.
Funny how Vinnie just couldn't pull off being the fucker instead of the fuckee.
Is that the main source of his frustration now ?
Deep down(way down), Vinnie has good qualities instilled by his family. When he tries to do what has been done to him, he simply cannot do it convincingly.A true scumbag could pull it off even after you know they have scammed you.
ALL of us here have been royally screwed and maintain a great sense of humanity and family.
How can Vinnie get that back ?
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Re: 1997 Press conference MTV coverage?
Thank you very much!
This is the first time I ever watched the conference.
I thought Gene and Paul removed all the footage off internet.
Silly me.
This is the first time I ever watched the conference.
I thought Gene and Paul removed all the footage off internet.
Silly me.
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From various accounts, it seems like KISS experience was turning point for Vinnie.
Vinnie before the KISS gig was a friendly guy with ok social skills it seems yet after the KISS gig, it changed drastically.
I'm not sure whether my perception is true or not, though.
But I just cannot get over the fact that such a talented guy has not been released any music for such a long time.
Vinnie before the KISS gig was a friendly guy with ok social skills it seems yet after the KISS gig, it changed drastically.
I'm not sure whether my perception is true or not, though.
But I just cannot get over the fact that such a talented guy has not been released any music for such a long time.
poserboy71 wrote:You are looking at ,and hearing, a man that got fucked hard and dirty.
Vinnie's speech is very poetic , lyrical, heartfelt, and true .
As the MTV VJ put it, it was ROCK Theater.
Funny how Vinnie just couldn't pull off being the fucker instead of the fuckee.
Is that the main source of his frustration now ?
Deep down(way down), Vinnie has good qualities instilled by his family. When he tries to do what has been done to him, he simply cannot do it convincingly.A true scumbag could pull it off even after you know they have scammed you.
ALL of us here have been royally screwed and maintain a great sense of humanity and family.
How can Vinnie get that back ?
Re: 1997 Press conference MTV coverage?
Gene and Paul don't own or control the internet. Neither does Mr. Cusano of course.
Vinnie was still a bit shifty before he joined Kiss, he just took it to new levels afterwards.
Vinnie was still a bit shifty before he joined Kiss, he just took it to new levels afterwards.
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Who has the complete footage? Maybe some Nashville fans? or collecting dust on some tapes around?
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In regard to kiss being the turning point, I don't think. He had lots of run ins before he joined kiss particularly in connecticut. That said he never had too much problem with the guys from Treasure.
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Vv didn't get fucked hard. Kiss were just cheap partially to do with the band almost going bust. That said vv got huge money and rewards that he had not achieved in his twenties. Hardly screwed over in my opinion and vv even said that while in vvi and at the expos.
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Yeah, Kiss were strapped when Vinnie joined, but trying to still look rich and famous. Their finances were screwed until the reunion, then Gene and Paul cashed in big time and learned from their earlier mistakes.
Vinnie had every chance in the world to be rich and famous after he left Kiss but it came to nothing.
Vinnie had every chance in the world to be rich and famous after he left Kiss but it came to nothing.
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Major losses on creatures tour and album and the 2 albums before, bad financial investments, paying off peter and having to pay ace even though he wasn't in band and the possibility that if lick it up didn't sell the band would go bankrupt. They were not going to pay mega wages under those conditions.
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Cusano fucked himself... no one else. He was lucky to get into a band of already lucky individuals and he fucked it away by thinking he was the be all end all. He even had a SECOND chance with the VVI and fucked that away. Sure, Paul and Gene used his talent, but he shouldve used Gene and Paul too to further his cause. Instead his ego took over and at the end of the day he only hurt himself (and his fans).
Vinnie was at fault... no one else. This press conference was silly and dramatic... a fucking joke.
Vinnie was at fault... no one else. This press conference was silly and dramatic... a fucking joke.
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True. He fucked vvi up more than kiss. He blames kiss and vvi members. Who does he blame for not getting any releases or live gigs since 1988.. Same people plus fans.
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So true! Nothing more to say.
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Vinnie's wig looks like Calimero's shell!
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I wonder if he still has that same wig? :p Or has many replicas of it waiting to be used once the one he is currently wearing falls apart.
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He still uses the same since the 90's.AnkhWarrior wrote:I wonder if he still has that same wig? :p Or has many replicas of it waiting to be used once the one he is currently wearing falls apart.
No doubt about it
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I agree with Dino on this. Hirsch Gardener has had a few things to say about it from VV's New England days.doublev2 wrote:In regard to kiss being the turning point, I don't think. He had lots of run ins before he joined kiss particularly in connecticut. That said he never had too much problem with the guys from Treasure.
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A studio owner and some engineers have pointed out a few things he did before he moved to la. One even suggested he was ripping off tunes. Also In high school a couple of old friends got screwed over apparently in senior year of high school. Supposedly vv hated school and was not very popular especially with the jocks.
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Insert Revenge of the Nerds meme in 3, 2......
Promises made, crying in vain, all empty. Never accepting the blame and not letting go of the shame. A river of tears, as months turn to years, all wasted. On someone not willing to change.Now only a shadow remains!
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He better at least wash that damn thingStreetbeat wrote:He still uses the same since the 90's.AnkhWarrior wrote:I wonder if he still has that same wig? :p Or has many replicas of it waiting to be used once the one he is currently wearing falls apart.
No doubt about it