Original Vinnie Vincent make up design?

strangeways · Post by **strangeways** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:01 am

Steve Coronel posted on FB
https://www.facebook.com/steve.coronel. ... ion=stream
"An early concept by me for MY stage outfit."

Somewhere Vinnie is preparing a lawsuit.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:18 am

i think Paul got the idea from that early thing Coronel did, would be cool to ask Coronel
what he thought when Vinnie appeared as the Ankh warrior?

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:21 pm

He even drew a V guitar !!!!

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:09 pm

Someone posted "Steve Martinel" under this pic on Coronel's Facebook...

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:12 pm

strangeways wrote:

Steve Coronel posted on FB
https://www.facebook.com/steve.coronel. ... ion=stream
"An early concept by me for MY stage outfit."

Somewhere Vinnie is preparing a lawsuit.

he even had the crescent moon drawn on the boots!

Post by **Streetbeat** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:14 pm

of course they used this as a source for vincent

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:22 pm

Vinnie didnt use v guitar until in kiss as well.
Seems like kiss made vinnie who he is more than I thought.

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:28 pm

Thank the Lord Vinnie didn't have to wear that headgear though!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:30 pm

Maybe if he had been involved with the elder the head gear may have been used.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:32 pm

doublev2 wrote:Maybe if he had been involved with the elder the head gear may have been used.

I always thought the Ankh Warrior/Wizard character would've fit the best with the Elder concept more than any of the others. I can just see Vinnie in a black unitard like Ace's Elder costume but instead of a silver lightning bolt a huge gold ankh across the chest and gold Chuck Taylor-type footwear (and keeping with the short hair, a Cleopatra type bob cut.)

If Vinnie would've joined a year earlier I wonder if the Elder would've been heavier or wouldn't have happened at all?

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:18 pm

I still dont think vv made kiss heavy..I suppose warrior was a little heavy but not like creatures.. I think producer plus desire to go heavy from kiss was what did it. Vv on elder would have made record better I believe.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:50 am

True Dino... I guess cause of his "shredder" guitar style and the fact that he joined when Kiss was riding the coattails of the NWOBHM, he often gets the credit for turning them metal. When you think about what a great pop song writer he was (Treasure plus doing disco with Dan Hartman at the time) if he joined Kiss in 1980, Unmasked would've probably still been a great pop rock album and not heavy cause Paul and Gene were still trying to stay mainstream.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:32 am

Vincent was a real musician, i think he was good on whatever style he did

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:19 am

Streetbeat wrote:Vincent was a real musician, i think he was good on whatever style he did

THIS!!!!!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:45 am

shramiac wrote:
Streetbeat wrote:Vincent was a real musician, i think he was good on whatever style he did
THIS!!!!!

...

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:56 pm

Sammy said it.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:59 pm

the sad thing is that he was , i wish he had released more material, not in the super metal style
something like treasure or his solo demos

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:08 pm

Yeah. He only has 2 full length albums of his own. What a crying shame. The biggest waste of tallent ever.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:13 pm

no joke, somehow i blame G&P , and of course himself but they made him implode

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:23 pm

Knowing what I know I am sometimes surprised how he got one solo album out.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:25 pm

he was younger and had more drive and will, after his problems with vvi the g&p ghost started to grow
eclipsing all of his person, he wanted back in '96, when he didn't got that he went mad in '97 and dedicated
most of his energy to sue them. that's what happened.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:26 pm

I still say the fleishman thing regarding the boys are gonna rock video was beginning of end for vvi. Not being able to put out bots and substitute as videos was end.
That said its mind blowing that time of year wasnt at least a moderate hit and weird ashes was never a video.

Nothing with vvi made sense apart from the music.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:28 pm

Yeah sammy. The suing ended everything. Any hope at all was lost.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:30 pm

a shame that he didnt return as he said a couple of years ago, all we needed was unreleased material
maybe new recordings, no live shows, all new recordings released from home, we could buy that.
too late now

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:29 pm

Yeahb. Why didnt he return? He will say us in particular me and rick but for us to have that much power over vv is pretty odd

Post by **Streetbeat** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:37 pm

ha ha ha

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:03 am

Kiss is to blame, the fans are to blame, the lawyers are to blame, the labels are to blame, the police are to blame, his wife is to blame, the guitar makers are to blame, The VVI band members are to blame, the press are to blame, the internet is to blame. That about wraps it up for vinnie. The bad fans ruined it for the good real fans (something vv likes to say).

Post by **Streetbeat** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:05 am

true !

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:29 am

looks like vinnie was double crossed by everyone. Can understand the lyrics to TRUTH now. hehe

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:16 am

It is not too late he merely needs to get off his old wrinkly ass and do something. There is an audience

shramiac · Post by **shramiac** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:06 am

Yes! Whatever the past, we want some Vinnie in the future!

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:18 am

doublev2 wrote:Yeahb. Why didnt he return? He will say us in particular me and rick but for us to have that much power over vv is pretty odd

It baffles me, to be honest. I just treat him as I would treat my dearest friends/family members. Praise them for doing well and tell them when they fuck up so they can correct their actions.

I expect, and receive, exactly that from my loved ones.
It's simply one of the things that you do for someone that you care about.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:29 pm

He doesnt like any straight talkers. Its got to be fake talk with ass kissin with vv and even then you dont know.. however with some angeles he seems to not mind teasing and jealousy talk.

mrblitz · Post by **mrblitz** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:17 pm

another album (i supposed i've mentioned this before) that he could have done, would have been 'vinnie fingerpicking the nylon stringed acoustic' - the classical record.

Billy · Post by **Billy** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:54 pm

Would've loved to see Vinnie and Alice Cooper pair up!

metatron · Post by **metatron** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:54 am

Billy wrote:Would've loved to see Vinnie and Alice Cooper pair up!

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A 2013 Halloween 'Love Kills' Re-make would be cool.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:44 pm

Yeah vinnie writing with Alice in 80s would have been great.

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:18 am

Billy wrote:Would've loved to see Vinnie and Alice Cooper pair up!

New project's name...
"Alice" in "Wizard"land?
Ankhle Alice?
Vincent and Vincent?
CusaNo More Mr. Nice Guy?
Billion Dollar Baby-O?

Post by **Genebaby** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:23 pm

Good ones!

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:59 am

PinkWiz · Post by **PinkWiz** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:49 pm

Genebaby wrote:Good ones!