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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:40 pm

Basically, don't do it.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby doublev2 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:55 pm

If he wants to sell them he should consign them to the guitar center. That's too easy for vv, he would rather conjure up some evil plan like lex Luther.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Portillo » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:42 pm

You would have to be brave to buy. I would say you have to get a tight contract in vinnies real name with his real house address and not a company he had made up. Also.a time line. Also detailed description of the condition the guitar is expected in, who makes it and photos of the progresses. Even then its a huge risk.
What a horrible situation for such a good looking guitar.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:23 pm

Yeah, pricing it out of the stratosphere and then of course the "contract" of doom that Vinnie wanted to enforce, it's a damn shame.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Portillo » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:41 am

Can you get that guitar legimately from anywhere else?

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby doublev2 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:52 am

the vv approved one is only through vinnie. not sure if its still for sale or not. others do make them.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby poserboy71 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:07 am

Can you get that guitar legimately from anywhere else?
TJ MONSTER Guitars will make a "similar" guitar for a fraction of the price----HIGH QUALITY !!!! Check out the bottom of the main menu of the VVFF. A lot of the members of the VVFF have ordered a guitar from TJ.

You can order a copy from Ed Roman and pay out the ass.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby doublev2 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:08 am

i am guessing if vv is still selling them he is selling the ones that were made for namm.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby doublev2 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:09 am

yeah ED ROMAN GUITARS make the abstract vee or something. I didn't like the black one that was on ebay a few years back for 4k. didn't sell either.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby KissMyAss » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:57 pm

Witness the failed guitar collection and the $1000 guitar pick as evidence Vinnie is out of touch with demand and reality.

I guess if a pick can be $1000 then $9000 for a guitar (sans case of course) is realistic. In the warped universe Vinnie inhabits.
You can get Vinnie Vincent picks on Amazon.com for $16.99. Better deal.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Portillo » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:50 pm

TJ MONSTER Guitars will make a "similar" guitar for a fraction of the price----HIGH QUALITY !!!! Check out the bottom of the main menu of the VVFF. A lot of the members of the VVFF have ordered a guitar from TJ.

You can order a copy from Ed Roman and pay out the ass.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby doublev2 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:17 pm

It's basically a rr v slightly modified.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:47 am

Witness the failed guitar collection and the $1000 guitar pick as evidence Vinnie is out of touch with demand and reality.

I guess if a pick can be $1000 then $9000 for a guitar (sans case of course) is realistic. In the warped universe Vinnie inhabits.
You can get Vinnie Vincent picks on Amazon.com for $16.99. Better deal.

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I bought a similar set of Randy Rhoads guitar pics about 10 years ago. That's pretty cool, I may have to get the Vinnie set too!
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby KissMyAss » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:54 pm

Live life as though it is the third law; "to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Rules apply whether we are cognizant of them or oblivious.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Slayer » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:28 pm

Great post KMA

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby erg2 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:25 am

What a horrible situation for such a good looking guitar.
Exactly. I don't even play guitar, but I would consider buying that guitar if:
1) It were the Vinnie approved model with a certificate and an autograph
2) It didn't cost more than my first car
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Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:00 pm

Vinnie likes the kind of price tags you can see at car dealerships.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Portillo » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:13 pm

Exactly. I don't even play guitar, but I would consider buying that guitar if:
1) It were the Vinnie approved model with a certificate and an autograph
2) It didn't cost more than my first car
Me too. I played guitar back in high school but now I would want that guitar just as a collectors item.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby 1031 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:51 am

The base model guitar with just standard paint should cost around 3500.00 thats a fair low count production guitar price. The Gold leaf guitar around 4500.00. Even using high quality parts that would leave the luthier a very comfortable 1500.00 labor and 500.00 a guitar for Vinnie. If this was a production guitar at a name brand guitar Co. about 2500.00 a guitar.

And really it does not matter what the cost should be because they will never be built. Theres not a shop in the world that would deal with the guy, after he fucked Tom on the builds. I know Tom has not really came clean with the whole details but you bet he would be the first call any luthier would make if approached to build the guitars.

So in the end the hope of guitars being built, new music, releasing GH, any performances or appearance's from Vinnie is just mental masturbation. Stick a fork in him he's done, it's over.


So here my challenge to Vinnie: Just do anything that will not involve you whining or screwing someone over. Just make it threw one day of not thinking your a victim.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby poserboy71 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:41 am

It would be great if Tom came to us and revealed everything. Unfortunately , I believe that will never happen.
I wonder if Tom is just as much of a dick as Vinnie is.
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Postby erg2 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:17 am

The base model guitar with just standard paint should cost around 3500.00 thats a fair low count production guitar price. The Gold leaf guitar around 4500.00. Even using high quality parts that would leave the luthier a very comfortable 1500.00 labor and 500.00 a guitar for Vinnie. If this was a production guitar at a name brand guitar Co. about 2500.00 a guitar.

And really it does not matter what the cost should be because they will never be built. Theres not a shop in the world that would deal with the guy, after he fucked Tom on the builds. I know Tom has not really came clean with the whole details but you bet he would be the first call any luthier would make if approached to build the guitars.

So in the end the hope of guitars being built, new music, releasing GH, any performances or appearance's from Vinnie is just mental masturbation. Stick a fork in him he's done, it's over.


So here my challenge to Vinnie: Just do anything that will not involve you whining or screwing someone over. Just make it threw one day of not thinking your a victim.

Remember last year when all the news was that Vinnie was going to be releasing all kinds of stuff?

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Portillo » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:43 pm

I guess if a pick can be $1000 then $9000 for a guitar (sans case of course) is realistic. In the warped universe Vinnie inhabits.
A pick for $1000. Insanity isnt a strong enough word.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby KMHayden » Sat May 12, 2012 8:00 am

I guess if a pick can be $1000 then $9000 for a guitar (sans case of course) is realistic. In the warped universe Vinnie inhabits.
A pick for $1000. Insanity isnt a strong enough word.
The words "Vinnie" and "Vincent" put together suit the scenario quite well.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby KissMyAss » Sun May 13, 2012 11:26 am

I guess if a pick can be $1000 then $9000 for a guitar (sans case of course) is realistic. In the warped universe Vinnie inhabits.
A pick for $1000. Insanity isnt a strong enough word.
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Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Sun May 13, 2012 11:59 am

Yeah, that's strange. You can mess with things to do that if you want to.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby KissMyAss » Sun May 13, 2012 12:44 pm

Yeah, that's strange. You can mess with things to do that if you want to.
Oh yeah..it was probably an accident. It first showed up in someone else's reply. I can't imagine why it wouldn't have been done by mistake.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Portillo » Tue May 15, 2012 4:45 pm

I didnt do that on purpose. I must of quoted this and deleted the wrong name.
Witness the failed guitar collection and the $1000 guitar pick as evidence Vinnie is out of touch with demand and reality.

I guess if a pick can be $1000 then $9000 for a guitar (sans case of course) is realistic. In the warped universe Vinnie inhabits.
You can get Vinnie Vincent picks on Amazon.com for $16.99. Better deal.

http://www.amazon.com/Vinnie-Vincent-Gu ... B003IDC4F0

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Tue May 15, 2012 8:16 pm

That would do it!!
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby AceAlive1 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:18 am

I guess if a pick can be $1000 then $9000 for a guitar (sans case of course) is realistic. In the warped universe Vinnie inhabits.
A pick for $1000. Insanity isnt a strong enough word.

i got a guitar pick that was a super limited run from eric singer and it was only about 12 bucks...but some terribly not played or mass produced run of picks from vinnie? uhm......no thanks.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:30 am

Well, just putting it out there, if anybody has a lazy grand lying around gathering dust, Vinnie will trade you a guitar pick for it.

He's keen to do business with YOU!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby 5minLuvKills » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:35 am

Well, just putting it out there, if anybody has a lazy grand lying around gathering dust, Vinnie will trade you a guitar pick for it.

He's keen to do business with YOU!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby MusicStudent » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:26 am

Vinnie Vincent had dead dogs in his freezer! He's angry! He pissed on his guitar!

Hey man, ROCK AND ROLL!! Hahaha!!! I think if the guy was "normal" or "logical" , then that wild guitar playing wouldn't work. He's radical, hes an artist, I love that guy!!!!

Seriously, a lot of people have done a lot worse things. He gave us some awesome music! It motivated me for years and still does! If you're reading this, VV, THANKS!

I wish him well. If he needs counseling, he should get it. I'll say a prayer for him and his wife, no joke.
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Postby PinkWiz » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:33 am

Vinnie Vincent had dead dogs in his freezer! He's angry! He pissed on his guitar!

Hey man, ROCK AND ROLL!! Hahaha!!! I think if the guy was "normal" or "logical" , then that wild guitar playing wouldn't work. He's radical, hes an artist, I love that guy!!!!

Seriously, a lot of people have done a lot worse things. He gave us some awesome music! It motivated me for years and still does! If you're reading this, VV, THANKS!

I wish him well. If he needs counseling, he should get it. I'll say a prayer for him and his wife, no joke.

Yes that's all fine and dandy but when he's ripping people off and declaring war on his last remaining fans that's NOT cool. Be angry and piss on your guitar all u want... that's not the point. Stay here long enough and it will become clear to you... yes, the guy needs help... bad. The "craziness" did help him as an artist to a certain extent... but when it starts becoming destructive to him and the people around him, supporting him, etc. then that's when it becomes a problem.

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby MusicStudent » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:53 am

PinkWiz, I am a total noob here. Hey, I wasn't aware he barked at the fans in the forum. Yeah, I can see why people are mad about that.

Is there a link to that discussion somewhere?

I shouldn't make light of the man's behavior. I sincerely wish the guy well and hope he gets any counseling he needs.

Who did he rip off, though?....I must've missed that... Are you talking about the super expensive VV guitars?
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby PinkWiz » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:02 pm

The super expensive VV guitars were ridiculous but I'm referring to the box set fiasco from '97 that even involved some members here... and the fact that he booted EVERY member but a choice few from Dino's DoubleV forum when he took over... and the fact that we appreciate Vinnie's musical contributions but refuse to lick his ass he refers to this forum as the "roach motel". Fukn dick should be appreciative that he even has ONE fan still interested in his carreer.

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Postby MusicStudent » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:22 pm

The super expensive VV guitars were ridiculous but I'm referring to the box set fiasco from '97 that even involved some members here... and the fact that he booted EVERY member but a choice few from Dino's DoubleV forum when he took over... and the fact that we appreciate Vinnie's musical contributions but refuse to lick his ass he refers to this forum as the "roach motel". Fukn dick should be appreciative that he even has ONE fan still interested in his carreer.
Wow....I had no idea.

I'm not surprised. Hey, when I was a kid I bought a Washburn AF40 "Ace Frehley" guitar. Talk about getting ripped off. Ace hated it, didn't play it, and....it was a barely playable novelty item. Gene is an ass...most of these guys are total jackasses. You realize we're discussing 60 year old bald guys, hahah.

The guitar playing they came up with is something of value, however....if VV would come out with lessons, and/or a guitar instructional book, I'd buy it without feeling like I got my money stolen.

Dead dogs in the freezer....dude...HAHAHA! I can't get past that. Can you picture the police's reaction in Tennessee when they found that?? WTF!! Haha.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby poserboy71 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:59 pm

I have dibs on your Washburn AF-40. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby MusicStudent » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:08 pm

I have dibs on your Washburn AF-40. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I sold it about 10 years ago.

I dropped EMG 81s in it (because that's what VV used and the stock pickups were weak). Man, it was a shoddy bolt on with the first string slipping off the fretboard. I slid the bridge over, Messed with the neck, put pick slivers under the "wonder bar" bridge piece to fix that....what a piece of crap.

Hey, thanks, Ace for putting your name on a toy.....grrrr. I played it to death but it was junk. Did I forget to say it was crap?.?

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby poserboy71 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:17 pm

I own the crimson-bolt version. I was guessing that yours was the silver-bolt ?

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Postby MusicStudent » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:14 pm

I own the crimson-bolt version. I was guessing that yours was the silver-bolt ?

YES, They are POOPY.
Yup, mine was black silver. That body shape has potential, however. Very well balanced, you could sit with it in std and classical positions, looks kinda like a bc rich ironbird...even better.

A bc rich or Jackson version of that could be phenomenal...neck thru or set...

Bit of info to ponder...randy and Rudy Sarzo were band mates...randy came out with his Jackson in 82...Rudy comes out with his quiet riot bass in 84 (the bass that morphed into the af40 ace washburn in 86). In a way aces guitar (a guitar version of rudy's bass) and randy rhodes Jackson are sorta related...well, they are in my warped mind! Both "pointy" guitars.

Hey man, one day I might ask u to trace an outline of your ace guitar on butcher paper and send it to me....I wanna make a custom body based on that design one day. It can wait for a while,....

Hey, I own a Sarzo Washburn slammer bass...play it nearly every day. Reminds me of the af40....
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby poserboy71 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:29 pm


Hey man, one day I might ask u to trace an outline of your ace guitar on butcher paper and send it to me....I wanna make a custom body based on that design one day. It can wait for a while,....

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Postby doublev2 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:21 am

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby MusicStudent » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:55 am

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Yeah, man! Ripping off gullible youth with guitars nobody important ever played! They're all a bunch of A Holes! Cool over-priced novelty souvenirs, though!

Anybody ever see or play the "RR" Washburn?

Vinnie and Ace did give us something of value, however...those rocking SOLOS! I don't expect any integrity from any of those guys.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby poserboy71 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:12 pm

I want the Washburn that Brian May plays in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw

I remember actually perking up because Brian was playing a pointy guitar.
I was a kid that didn't know any better and actually would dismiss the SONG if the solo didn't have any wanking in it and would dismiss the video if the guitar player had boring looking guitars.

That being said,I would suck shit to have a Red Special now.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby PinkWiz » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:08 pm

I was a kid that didn't know any better and actually would dismiss the SONG if the solo didn't have any wanking in it

I actually went thru this phase too when I was 17 for a couple months and only listened to Vinnie's first album, Racer X, Cacophony, Vai, Shotgun Messiah, etc... until I finally realized the only wanking I was gonna pull off was behind closed doors. :oops:

Then I discovered stuff on the total other end of the spectrum... Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, etc. (the ironic thing being that Tim Skold from Shotgun Messiah would go on to join KMFDM years later).

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby doublev2 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:41 am

Did you like pop will eat itself?
I went through a cacophony thing in 88. Jason and marty always replied to my letters. I think they were mostly gerting letters from japan. Cacophony had virtually no exposure in us magazines but maybe a tiny bit in guitar magazines.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby PinkWiz » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:43 am

yes, I loved Pop Will Eat Itself!

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby crossroads » Sun May 19, 2013 4:24 am

What does he charge for a guitar & did anyone actually order from him??

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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby doublev2 » Mon May 20, 2013 6:45 am

Anout 10 thousand plus case and shipping and no no one bought.
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Re: Challenge to Vinnie

Postby Genebaby » Wed May 22, 2013 5:10 pm

Yes, in these economic times it was not the deal of the century.
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