You would think gene simmons would donate

RokkenWdokken · Post by **RokkenWdokken** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:16 am

seeing what he is going through and gene simmons net worth would it kill him to just give vinnie x amount of money to lift him off his feet anonymously and let the guy be whole again I understand Vinnie made horrible mistakes and screwd people over but Jesus have a heart and lift him outta the gutter if I was a millionaire I would Deff help vinny out no questions asked after all he was a big part of kiss

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 am

Uhh why would gene give money to vinnie? There are sick children dying of cancer etc. Vv has sued unsuccessfully kiss many times not sure why you say this? Yes I have a heart and it would be cool to see vv get off his feet or get medical help but why gene? Vv has some stuff he can sell to help himself or put out music or book. He doesn't need charity if he can put out music and books etc

RokkenWdokken · Post by **RokkenWdokken** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:28 am

Just thought maybe gene would help out an old friend aside from all the bullshit We know gene has the funds

RokkenWdokken · Post by **RokkenWdokken** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:31 am

I mean vinnie is selling his underwear for gods sake

RokkenWdokken · Post by **RokkenWdokken** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:37 am

Kiss should drop everything give vinny a substantial amount and it's over a million dollars to vinny from the kiss camp would be like 5 bucks to all of us I just feel so bad for vinnie and his situation and just thinking how gene or paul can change that in a instance

Post by **Genebaby** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:52 am

The thing with Vinnie is he created his own situation and only keeps making it worse.

Yes he lived I squalor for many years but the guy has more talent than probably everyone on this board put together, so he could have been living like the Egyptian Pharoah he thinks he is.

He is reaping what he has sown. He needs to get off his ass and do what he does best.

He has revenue streams he's either not using or he is choking them, ie, the auction.

Slayer · Post by **Slayer** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:07 am

People have to want help to accept help. Vinnie has been offered help from those on this forum for years and he declines to accept it.

For many people who have a good heart it makes them feel good to help someone in need but money is hard to earn in 2014 so more and more people vet a situation more thoroughly to insure that their investment would truly make a difference and actually achieve the desired affect. No one would want to pour money down the drain on an individual that is not mentally well enough to benefit from it.

Vinnie needs to see a doctor or doctors and get in a stable place mentally and once he is there if he is willing to act civil and work there is a lot of doors that would open for him both here and elsewhere. Vinnie is obviously not in nearly as bad shape as some would imagine financially because if he was he would respond to the market demand or lack thereof and lower the prices on the items that he is trying to sell. The definition of insanity is to continue repeatedly to do the same failed things expecting there to eventually be a different result.

Lots of people would like to buy his guitars and some of his other personal items if the price was reasonable. Vinnie has also defrauded the courts when he claimed that he didn't have these assets to pay his legal debts from his lost legal battles with Kiss.

Vincent Cusano's life is a hot mess of his own design yet he could turn things around if he ever has a true reckoning. Until this happens and it needs to happen first any money or opportunities given to Cusano would be a waste and a loss that made no difference

Kev

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:45 am

Kiss members were contacted recently and politely refused to assist.

BigEd · Post by **BigEd** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:37 pm

Yes, there has been so many offer's from all of "Us" to help....yet he won't ask or reach out to "real fans" that actually not just care about him musically but more on a human & personal level. Nobody here wants to make $$$$ on Vinnie, we just want to see him return to greatness, correct some of the mistakes that have been made and reap the rewards of his labor....he needs to learn trust, come up with a strategic plan, the potential release of songs, guitar clinic's, a small number of concert's or expo appearances to make it happen !!!

So when your ready and you feel like talking Vinnie, you know where to find me....

tyla · Post by **tyla** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:30 pm

vv is not a very nice person, why would anyone give him money? he has screwed fans over and over and will do it again. he created his own mess. mental illness? probably? but stealing and writing bad checks and lying is done by a lowlife. sorry, but i dont think he is worth helping.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:45 pm

I just wish he could start some some sort of career again. Nice guy or not he like all of us is one of us. I feel for him but unless he accepts help I don't see any good ending but let's hope.

BigEd · Post by **BigEd** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:49 pm

There would have to be a face to face meeting with Vinnie and a plan, no money is just forked over for the fun of it, it would only be used for the benefit of some type of reappearance to the world of Rock & Roll....not to pay his rent or cable bill !!! Money can get the ball rolling if he is interested and if not. he can just sell his T-Shirts and auction off his stuff, sit in a rocking chair and reflect on what he once was or who he could have been....

dkraven · Post by **dkraven** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:02 pm

RokkenWdokken wrote:I mean vinnie is selling his underwear for gods sake

For $1 million...

Post by **Streetbeat** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:56 pm

He has good money now, he just sold four guitars

1982 White Jackson
1980 Black Charvel strat
Carvin DoubleNeck
1990 Pear

Post by **Genebaby** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:43 pm

Did he, did he truly ruly?

Was it the overseas buyers? Those guys always do good by Vinnie, they bought all those Angels dvd's.

tyla · Post by **tyla** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:52 pm

cant be true.

AnkhWarrior · Post by **AnkhWarrior** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:05 pm

Greedy Gene donating VV money?

Hell will freeze over the day that happens.

And really? Guitars were purchased? Hmmm perhaps not actual buyers...just to make it look like he's making some profit; might intrigue others to actually purchase.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:13 pm

Give me a break. Vv is 100 times more greedy than gene. Just because Gene says he is money greedy doesn't mean it's totally true.

AnkhWarrior · Post by **AnkhWarrior** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:10 pm

doublev2 wrote:Give me a break. Vv is 100 times more greedy than gene. Just because Gene says he is money greedy doesn't mean it's totally true.

Gene says he is money greedy soooo must be somewhat, sorta, kinda, partially true

And, I wasn't even comparing the two at all. Was stating Gene is money greedy. VV may be greedy, but so is Gene.

Post by **Genebaby** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:35 pm

The big difference is Gene is actually making money. Vinnie wants it too but he does not know how to sell stuff to get any $$$.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:35 am

Yes if you sit on your ass and your folks are not wealthy you will have nothing. Gene doesn't sit on his ass

AlanF · Post by **AlanF** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:07 am

I always wondered why $immons and Stanley wouldn't help an old bandmate out, however, if I'd been sued twice, I think I'd leave him out to dry.
Pretty sure IF $immons did donate 'off the record', it might come back to haunt him with a slimey lawyer citing 'admission of guilt' regarding royalties etc.
As much as I loath $immons & Stanley, they're doing the right thing here.

Post by **Streetbeat** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:39 am

Twice?
Around 15 times

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:09 am

Yes way more than twice. Vv lost each time. Kiss also have legal insurance so they don't pay for lawyers like vv thinks.

tukoztukoz · Post by **tukoztukoz** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:40 pm

Instead of money, Gene and Paul should offer services to Vinnie, like coaches for health, intellectual life, housekeeping, gardening, etc. Maybe start with a good psychologist?
New life, new start!

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:56 pm

Do not see why kiss need to do anything. Would be better to help sick kids in my opinion. Vinnie doesn't need charity he needs to put out music which he can.

tyla · Post by **tyla** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:37 am

seriously, why should anyone want to help vv?

if he asks for help and comes clean about the things he did, mabye some would forgive him, but now? he lies in the bed he made.

AnkhWarrior · Post by **AnkhWarrior** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:15 am

Lol bottom line, no one will help Mr. Vincent.

He needs to help himself!

Get his mental health in check first, then do what he needs to do to get back on his feet.

AlanF · Post by **AlanF** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:37 am

Streetbeat wrote:Twice?
Around 15 times

OUCH!
I honestly thought it was JUST the twice. 15 you say? No wonder he has no money left!

WAnkhor · Post by **WAnkhor** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:42 am

AnkhWarrior wrote:Get his mental health in check first, then do what he needs to do to get back on his feet.

Seeing as the general agreement is that VV is broke, is there a form of free mental healthcare available in the United States?

tukoztukoz · Post by **tukoztukoz** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:42 am

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doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:36 am

It's clear vv pinned his hopes since 1997 on suing and wining a big payout from kiss. Everything else took second place. This is why I thought vv had not released music but now I.think it's a few more reasons. The main reason is gfh is not finished. The other reasons are vv hasnt the motivation and third I think he likes to.have the power of not having released tunes that fans want to hear as he has no other tunes in the pipeline. Just guess work with this stuff but robert said gfh was not finished and he never finished the vocals.

poserboy71 · Post by **poserboy71** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:38 am

I really blame the GREEDY lawyers for convincing Vinnie that he had a chance to win every time he sued Kiss.

I know some good, honest, lawyers who have told me what would likely happen BEFORE money became a factor.

doublev2 · Post by **doublev2** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:24 am

I don't think vv pays his lawyers, I bet it's all based on paying if vv wins. I know he successful sued a lawyer who represented him. he usually goes bankrupt when he has to pay but was banned from filing for abusing system.

AnkhWarrior · Post by **AnkhWarrior** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:03 am

WAnkhor wrote:
AnkhWarrior wrote:Get his mental health in check first, then do what he needs to do to get back on his feet.
Seeing as the general agreement is that VV is broke, is there a form of free mental healthcare available in the United States?

If he is TRULY mentally insane in some way and can prove it, then yes you can get free healthcare.