Are the people of Australia proud of this lady ?

[poserboy71]

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Gina Rinehart, World's Richest Woman: 'Spend Less Time Drinking And Smoking' And You'll Be Rich

Posted: 08/30/2012 12:34 pm Updated: 08/30/2012 2:33 pm

The richest woman in the world has a message for all you normals out there: Becoming rich is as easy as putting down that beer and getting off your ass.

Australian billionaire Gina Rinehart wrote that there is “no monopoly on becoming a millionaire,” in a column in Australian Resources Magazine, according to the AFP.

"If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain,” Rinehart wrote. “Do something to make more money yourself -- spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working.”

Rinehart has a point, working hard is one way to make a lot of money. Another way is to inherit a boatload of it and turn that wealth into more wealth. Rinehart may be more familiar with the second route. When her father died in 1992, he left the mining mogul $75 million and, yes, she multiplied that sum by 386 over the past 20 years, according to AOL Daily Finance.

It's true that probably happened because Rinehart worked hard. But in the race to become super-rich, it always helps to have a head start. Nearly 70 percent of the sons of top-earning men have worked at their dad's employer, compared to just 40 percent of sons overall, a recent study found.

Rinehart’s comments set off a firestorm in Australia, where she holds the title of richest person. The country’s Treasurer slammed her column, saying it was "an insult to the millions of Australian workers who go to work and slog it out to feed the kids and pay the bills,” according to the Sydney Morning Herald.

But this isn’t the first time the billionaire has made known her views on the poor. She waxed poetic on the subject in a poem published earlier this year that included the lines “The globe is sadly groaning with debt, poverty and strife/ And billions now are pleading to enjoy a better life/ Their hope lies with resources buried deep within the earth/ And the enterprise and capital which give each project worth.”

The poem, titled “Our Future” was dubbed “the universe’s worst poem” by one critic, according to the Guardian.

[PinkWiz]

haha I knew if I kept reading it would eventually say she inherited millions in the first place...

yes YOU TOO can be a millionaire... if you're already one.

[metatron]

Spot on P!nkW!z.

She's a Korporate Kunt. She is the heiress of Hancock Prospecting and the daughter of the late Lang Hancock. Her kids even hate her. In 2011, three of Rinehart's children and beneficiaries, Hope Rinehart Welker, John Hancock and Bianca Rinehart, brought a legal action in the New South Wales Supreme Court over Rinehart's (as sole trustee) alleged delay of the vesting date of the Hope Margaret Hancock Trust. In 2003 after a falling out with Rinehart, her son, John Langley Hayward, changed his surname by deed poll to John Langley Hancock; their relationship remains difficult. John's sister, Bianca Hope Hayward, once tipped to take over the family business, served as a director of Hancock Prospecting and HMHT Investments until 31 October 2011, when she was replaced by her half-sister, Ginia Rinehart. This Fat greedy Slag is not self made, she was born into tremendous amounts of wealth & power. She know shit about real life.

[shramiac]

I don't completely disagree with her on some things to be honest! Yes, she inherited millions from her father but she turned that into billions! And she's provided high paying jobs to many thousands of people.

She said one of the things "that you just can't say (naughty naughty Gina)", that there are people out there the moan & groan that they're broke and can't make ends meet etc but who can still manage to buy two packs of ciggies and a carton of beer a day!! Those people exist, I see them every day! Sorry if that offends.

Don't agree with how she treated her kids though.

[mfoster]

She should slow down on making more money and spend some time losing a couple of chins

[metatron]

Don't really care what anyone else thinks. I know mega Rich people & they all have the attitude that you too can be a mega millionaire. Thing is, they have all had a leg up.
Gina Rinehart is only saying this cause 'IRON ore prices have continued their rapid fall' & she http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 6462006441 still wants to make her huge profit margin, so she wants cheaper labor. In turn achieving her profit margin.
She really is a fat ugly greedy slag & her poem, titled “Our Future” was dubbed “the universe’s worst poem” .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -poem.html

Our Future”
The globe is sadly groaning with debt, poverty and strife
And billions now are pleading to enjoy a better life
Their hope lies with resources buried deep within the earth
And the enterprise and capital which give each project worth
Is our future threatened with massive debts run up by political hacks
Who dig themselves out by unleashing rampant tax
The end result is sending Australian investment, growth and jobs offshore
This type of direction is harmful to our core
Some envious unthinking people have been conned
To think prosperity is created by waving a magic wand
Through such unfortunate ignorance, too much abuse is hurled
Against miners, workers and related industries who strive to build the world
Develop North Australia, embrace multiculturalism and welcome short term foreign workers to our shores
To benefit from the export of our minerals and ores
The world's poor need our resources: do not leave them to their fate
Our nation needs special economic zones and wiser government, before it is too late

[metatron]

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for big business & making money. But things like the share market are delusional if they think they are going to make an addition 10% (on top of what they made the previous year) profit & this trend is going to continue forever. Also now companies are that the stage were they will do anything to achieve that extra profit. It's greed to the power of infinity. They will brake the backs of their employees to get more money & power. And then on the other side of the equation you have the Communist Labor Party, taxing the hell out of it's diminishing Australian work force.
Between fugly garbage like that Communist Julia Gillard & billionaire (never worked a hard day in her life) Gina Rinehart, we a screwed. It's like having a rat plague, then getting snakes to kill the rats. Then getting mongooses to kill the snakes plague & so on. Both sides of the equation are corrupt evil fuckers & need to be removed from the face of this planet.

[KissMyAss]

Bullshit. My one vice is coffee. Why do I want to hear some pompous, blue-blooded heiress judging anyone below her status? Her nose is so far in the air, if it rained she would drown. Who cares? Is she bitching because an employee or two came into work with a hangover???

This is the reason I still say,

Hayek was right!!

This is like "The Road to Serfdom." The government enacts laws establishing corporations, and you'd better work your butts off for the 1%. The first corporation was created by the city of London. Historically the roots of corporations are government. Not business. The elitists take over every nation, and eventually only their children and grandchildren prosper. Empires have a long history of being crushed in their own wars. It's all part of the cycle. The wedding (constitutions), the honeymoon (prosperity), the broken promises, the enslavement, and destruction.

[KissMyAss]

Don't really care what anyone else thinks. I know mega Rich people & they all have the attitude that you too can be a mega millionaire. Thing is, they have all had a leg up.
Gina Rinehart is only saying this cause 'IRON ore prices have continued their rapid fall' & she http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 6462006441 still wants to make her huge profit margin, so she wants cheaper labor. In turn achieving her profit margin.
She really is a fat ugly greedy slag & her poem, titled “Our Future” was dubbed “the universe’s worst poem” .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -poem.html

Our Future”
The globe is sadly groaning with debt, poverty and strife
And billions now are pleading to enjoy a better life
Their hope lies with resources buried deep within the earth
And the enterprise and capital which give each project worth
Is our future threatened with massive debts run up by political hacks
Who dig themselves out by unleashing rampant tax
The end result is sending Australian investment, growth and jobs offshore
This type of direction is harmful to our core
Some envious unthinking people have been conned
To think prosperity is created by waving a magic wand
Through such unfortunate ignorance, too much abuse is hurled
Against miners, workers and related industries who strive to build the world
Develop North Australia, embrace multiculturalism and welcome short term foreign workers to our shores
To benefit from the export of our minerals and ores
The world's poor need our resources: do not leave them to their fate
Our nation needs special economic zones and wiser government, before it is too late

Now that is pure TS Eliot! Rhapsody on a stinky night.

[metatron]

Bullshit. My one vice is coffee. Why do I want to hear some pompous, blue-blooded heiress judging anyone below her status? Her nose is so far in the air, if it rained she would drown. Who cares? Is she bitching because an employee or two came into work with a hangover???

This is the reason I still say,

Hayek was right!!

This is like "The Road to Serfdom." The government enacts laws establishing corporations, and you'd better work your butts off for the 1%. The first corporation was created by the city of London. Historically the roots of corporations are government. Not business. The elitists take over every nation, and eventually only their children and grandchildren prosper. Empires have a long history of being crushed in their own wars. It's all part of the cycle. The wedding (constitutions), the honeymoon (prosperity), the broken promises, the enslavement, and destruction.

Word!

[shramiac]

Bullshit. My one vice is coffee. Why do I want to hear some pompous, blue-blooded heiress judging anyone below her status? Her nose is so far in the air, if it rained she would drown. Who cares? Is she bitching because an employee or two came into work with a hangover???

This is the reason I still say,

Hayek was right!!

This is like "The Road to Serfdom." The government enacts laws establishing corporations, and you'd better work your butts off for the 1%. The first corporation was created by the city of London. Historically the roots of corporations are government. Not business. The elitists take over every nation, and eventually only their children and grandchildren prosper. Empires have a long history of being crushed in their own wars. It's all part of the cycle. The wedding (constitutions), the honeymoon (prosperity), the broken promises, the enslavement, and destruction.

Her workers get paid over $100K a year! Hardly serfdom!!!

[erg2]

Sounds a LOT like Donald Trump. He LOVES to tell everyone how he pulled himself up from the working class, but the truth is his father was a well off construction developer and helped his son finance the purchase of his first building. My father helped me out a lot and I will help MY son out as much as I can...but aint no way I can afford to give the kid a building in downtown New York. (Oh...and to top it off, Trump has almost lost his wealth twice by not being able to manage his business properly. But since he was a celebrity with ties to people in the media, he was able to get bailed out.)

[strangeways]

haha I knew if I kept reading it would eventually say she inherited millions in the first place...
yes YOU TOO can be a millionaire... if you're already one.

Indeed.
She's a cow.

[KissMyAss]

Bullshit. My one vice is coffee. Why do I want to hear some pompous, blue-blooded heiress judging anyone below her status? Her nose is so far in the air, if it rained she would drown. Who cares? Is she bitching because an employee or two came into work with a hangover???

This is the reason I still say,

Hayek was right!!

This is like "The Road to Serfdom." The government enacts laws establishing corporations, and you'd better work your butts off for the 1%. The first corporation was created by the city of London. Historically the roots of corporations are government. Not business. The elitists take over every nation, and eventually only their children and grandchildren prosper. Empires have a long history of being crushed in their own wars. It's all part of the cycle. The wedding (constitutions), the honeymoon (prosperity), the broken promises, the enslavement, and destruction.

Her workers get paid over $100K a year! Hardly serfdom!!!

My mistake. Miners pay scale is between $30,000 and $100,000. Her arrogance is not justified. And I believe people should have greater opportunities to work independently, if they so please. Instead of getting crushed by corporations.

[KissMyAss]

Sounds a LOT like Donald Trump. He LOVES to tell everyone how he pulled himself up from the working class, but the truth is his father was a well off construction developer and helped his son finance the purchase of his first building. My father helped me out a lot and I will help MY son out as much as I can...but aint no way I can afford to give the kid a building in downtown New York. (Oh...and to top it off, Trump has almost lost his wealth twice by not being able to manage his business properly. But since he was a celebrity with ties to people in the media, he was able to get bailed out.)

The Andrew Carnegie story sounds better than, "I inherited a silver spoon".

[metatron]

Sounds a LOT like Donald Trump. He LOVES to tell everyone how he pulled himself up from the working class, but the truth is his father was a well off construction developer and helped his son finance the purchase of his first building.

The Andrew Carnegie story sounds better than, "I inherited a silver spoon".

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[KissMyAss]

Sounds a LOT like Donald Trump. He LOVES to tell everyone how he pulled himself up from the working class, but the truth is his father was a well off construction developer and helped his son finance the purchase of his first building.

The Andrew Carnegie story sounds better than, "I inherited a silver spoon".

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I wouldn't offer "something" to that bitch She might eat it...literally.

[metatron]

Was taking to my good bud, Patrick & this what he had to say;

Since Gina Rinehart was so thoughtful to pass on it's worldly wisdom, I think I should return the favour.
Gina, put the fork down & step away from the plate you grotesque vile Behemoth. Unlike, the poor drinking smoking plebes of the world, you have the resources & money to get a team of nutritionist & trainers to watch over you 24x7. They can help you loose all that weight you fat fucken lazy turd. Maybe get a team of Liposuction surgeons to vacuum & suck that beastly lard from your gunt & it's surrounds continents. While your at it ,get a team of plastic surgeons to cut away the excessive skin & attempt to shape you into something that resembles some kind of human being. As it is now, you appearance makes me want to hurl chunks . The only reason I didn't vomit, is cause I'm worried you'll get a straw & find a way to ingest it.
The man who impregnated you must have either been Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, cause they would be the only ones to go where no man had gone before. Moo!

[shramiac]

Maybe she should just close all her businesses and sack every worker! Then she can happily live out her life any way she wants and let the government take care of all the people needs. Yeah, that's the way for a country to get ahead!

[metatron]

Yer, the women's a saint . She a non profit organization. Fact is she's just the opposite side of the fence that the Australian Labour (Communist) Party is (or is she?). Neither of them are out to help anyone, but themselves. Thing is if one is willing to have an opinion, you should be able to cop it sweet when someone has their own opinion.
She should take a dose of her own medicine. Look in that (wide-screen) mirror. People like her shouldn't point finger if they have walked in another footsteps. At the end of the day, she wasn't self made. At the end of the day, $100,000 isn't a lot of money for an average Australian, despite what that Australian Labour (Communist) Party or Gina Rinehart may think.

Gina Rinehart earns the annual full-time minimum wage every 53 seconds and, at the peak of the mining boom, the industry contributed only about 0.5 per cent of Commonwealth government revenue. The Australian Tax payer give the miners $4 billion a year in subsidies. In addition to the direct tax subsidies we give away, our state and federal governments are quick to pay for the ''infrastructure'' that the miners need. Infrastructure usually refers to the kinds of networks, roads, rail, electricity and water that connect us. The ''infrastructure'' that the miners get, however, doesn't so much connect them to us, but to their foreign customers.

But rather than defend why the taxpayer should pay her industry $4 billion a year in subsidies and pay for large parts of their mines, the world's wealthiest woman goes on the front foot and attacks those who work for minimum wage.
Gina Rinehart is clearly a lucky woman. She was lucky enough to inherit an iron ore deposit from her father. She was lucky enough to live in a country with no death duties or estate duties. She was lucky to own it at a time when the world price of iron ore was at an all-time high. And she is lucky that successive Australian governments have been generous in their provision of subsidies to the mining industry.

But not all Australians can be as lucky as that. To have a go at those who work hard for the least money is not just insulting, it is obscene.

Wealthy miners like to pretend they are the backbone of the country, but attacking the less well off is simply spineless.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion ... 256cb.html

[metatron]

My bad, My correction.

... At the end of the day, $100,000 isn't a lot of money for an average Australian (Family), despite what that Australian Labour (Communist) Party or Gina Rinehart may think.....

[PinkWiz]

It has nothing to do with being " envious" cause someone was born rich... it's just being annoyed that someone who was born lucky with wealth can't keep their mouth shut.

[shramiac]

I don't think she really attacked anyone, just offered constructive criticism. I don't think what she said is that bad actually!
There are people out there who are on minumum wage struggling yes. But there are people out there who will still spend $20-30 a day on cigarettes and beer PLUS have the big "piss up" on Friday or Saturday night who complain that they haven't any money??? Small "sacrifices" during the week can really add up to extra cash in the long run.

Or the people that say they've been waiting years to see a doctor or dentist on the public scheme because they can't afford to go private (private is cheaper here than in the US, I know it's bad over there) but they've got $10,00 worth of tatts on their arms!!! Talk about mixed up priorities! I get real angry when I see someone like this when it's their kids who are the ones with the health issues and they won't change their lifestyle for the benifit of the kids.


People like her shouldn't point finger if they have walked in another footsteps.

So I can't say to someone that they shouldn't use heroin because I haven't used it?

[metatron]

I believe in Liberalism. That means if you want to shoot heroin into your arm, you should be free to do so.
In saying that, you need to take responsibility for your actions. If you choose to take heroin & when you eventually fuck up, you need to take ownership of the problem & not the tax payer.
In saying that the REAL sick (no the fuckwit that does it to himself) should be looked after, but instead we that tax payers, are paying to build infrastructure for billionaires. We are paying for wars that we have no idea what the fuck they are about.The fish stinks from the head down & shit flows down hill. Yer they talk the talk, but have no idea how to walk it.
The Gina Rinehart's of the world are happy for people to get a second job. Pay most of that second jobs wages in taxes & not really get ahead. She's happy to use the tax papers money to bankroll her profiteering. She happy to drop the minimum wage of working people so that she can recoup her loose from the drop in the price of Iron Ore. That all she gives a shit about. Her profit margin.

And on a note about Private Health, it pretty much doesn't pay for anything. I paid over $4000 to get my daughter's tonsils removed last year. I pay top cover. I got pretty much nothing back. What did they pay for you ask, the nice room in the hospital, that's it. I pay over $4000 a year for private insurance, it's a joke. When I got sick in late 2006, all that I got from my private health fund was having a private room in a public hospital. Fucken joke. Insurance is basically a tax for poor people. & if I don't pay for it I get punished (in my tax return) & pay for it anyway & get absolute zero for it. Rich people don't have it cause they can pay in cash for their treatment. What's that saying, insurance is con job. It's for people who are bad at mathematics. I know a couple of guys who have Ferrari's & another guy who has a Aston Martin Rapide. Guess what, no insurance. Why? cause when the shit hits the fan they can pay for the repair. Ca$h.

[doublev2]

shit. I thought it was free healthcare in Australia? $4000 for tonsils? shit. Healthcare is crazy. I like the healthcare in Britain even with the bad rap it has. I have lived in Britain, USA and Italy (only 9 month in Italy) and have had my kids in hospitals in all places. In the USA the hospital was amazing but lots of b.s. and had to pay some stuff on top of my insurance, in Italy old hospital but amazing doctors and in Britain OK hospital (but not great but private room at least) but doctors helped save my daughters life so I can not be more thankful. In Italy and Britian I paid nothing and in Italy they didn't even ask for any details .. just took my daughter in.. she stayed in hospital for 3 days and left.. not one document signed.. hehe. I am guessing the hospitals in Australian are excellent though.
I worry a lot about the future of healthcare especially being freelance and having to pay insurance myself when I go back to the States.. but I suppose good and bad things in every country. when i left New York 6 years ago I was paying $1500 a month for healthcare for a family of 3 and that did not include dental and was discounted through my union. I am guessing its more for a family of 5 now unless i search around in dark alleys.

[shramiac]

Health care is free in Oz. 9% of your gross pay is used to fund the public health system. It started off as instead of a 3% pay rise, the extra money was used to start off the the system so techniquely you are not paying as you aren't losing money from your pay. That has now gone to 9% and some are suggesting it go to 12% which of course is paid by the employer! Beauty of it is that everyone is covered for treatment. Even if you're a bum living on the street and you get hit by a car, you don't pay a cent. Bad thing is surgery waiting times! They can be years. Hence the private system where you can see the doc you want and get the surgery done at a much faster rate. But at a cost to you.
Funny thing is, most of the surgeons work in both systems so if you waited, the surgeon you paid to use, you might have ended up with for free if you waited on the public system! My niece's husband is a ENT and he does two days a week in each and one day consulting.

[doublev2]

Got it. So basically private insurance should speed surgery up if its a non emergency . Same in UK . No problem in emergency but if its non emergency you can wait a little longer.

[KissMyAss]

I don't think she really attacked anyone, just offered constructive criticism. I don't think what she said is that bad actually!
There are people out there who are on minumum wage struggling yes. But there are people out there who will still spend $20-30 a day on cigarettes and beer PLUS have the big "piss up" on Friday or Saturday night who complain that they haven't any money??? Small "sacrifices" during the week can really add up to extra cash in the long run.

Or the people that say they've been waiting years to see a doctor or dentist on the public scheme because they can't afford to go private (private is cheaper here than in the US, I know it's bad over there) but they've got $10,00 worth of tatts on their arms!!! Talk about mixed up priorities! I get real angry when I see someone like this when it's their kids who are the ones with the health issues and they won't change their lifestyle for the benifit of the kids.


People like her shouldn't point finger if they have walked in another footsteps.

So I can't say to someone that they shouldn't use heroin because I haven't used it?

John Travolta let his son die over Scientology. Lifestyle choices had nothing to do with his abusive parenting. He was rich, as well. Nobody intervened when his child had seizures everyday because of his father's RELIGION. His son broke his head open. John Travolta and his wife faced zero consequences for neglecting their child's medical condition. He was watching his child go through several seizures every day, and refused to medicate him. Does that make you mad? Does it make you mad nobody cared just because Travolta had money? This wasn't really a media sensation, "John Travolta neglects epileptic son." It wasn't a secret. John Travolta was pressured by the Church of Scientology to treat his son with dianetics. It was okay with America that his son couldn't function. Couldn't go to school. Couldn't even play. That the child was falling several times a day, until he had an accident that killed him. But, John Travolta's child didn't have health issues, because his bank account is big. He wasn't as bad of a parent as those idiots who get tattoos on their arms instead of buying health insurance because he could afford the best health care.

Justice is blind to the rich. Society doesn't care about children. Only money. I find that disgusting. Objects and religion means more to society than the life of a child! Socioeconomic status. Reputation. Image. Social appearance. This society is so fake, I don't know what to believe in anymore.

[KissMyAss]

In the US, there is a 25% unemployment rate due to the recession. Most people are happy working minimum wage. If you've got health issues and rely on medication to function, the government will cut your insurance if you work full time. Stuck between a rock and a hard place by bullshit bureaucratic rules. I want to work full time. But functioning is more important. The joke is; I couldn't drink heavily if I wanted to. I couldn't use any drugs out there with speed or cocaine in them....I am not partying it up. Too much alcohol combined with my medication makes me sicker than hell, anyway. I don't judge people who drink heavily. It's not my business. I just wish them safe fun. Why not? I feel no superiority over people.

Shame on people who judge on the basis of socioeconomic status. I am not fond of judgmental people in general. Since the age of 5, I have experienced judgment. Nobody should make this statement. But that's how fucked up society is as a whole. When people are judging they fail to listen, fail to observe, fail to feel any compassion or love. An "every man for himself" society is unnatural. Do we wonder why people are miserable? We have an instinct to work together, and we are trained to divide. Americans are empty. Family is no longer valuable. Friends are no longer valuable. Other Americans are no longer valuable. This is occurring in all countries. The globalists and the elite are together. The 99% are the outsiders? How many people here are rich?

If you aren't rich, don't take sides with the elite that don't like any socioeconomic status below them. They judge you. There is no social ladder to a snob. Either you are rich or shit. Notice she mentioned nothing of the middle class. Everyone but the rich was included in her remark.

[shramiac]

Here's what she actually said,

Let's get through the class warfare smokescreen. We need to regain our roots and encourage people to invest and build. There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire. If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain; do something to make more money yourself — spend less time drinking, or smoking and socializing, and more time working. Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others. Australia needs such people.


Sound advice I'd say.

[KissMyAss]

Here's what she actually said,

Let's get through the class warfare smokescreen. We need to regain our roots and encourage people to invest and build. There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire. If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain; do something to make more money yourself — spend less time drinking, or smoking and socializing, and more time working. Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others. Australia needs such people.


Sound advice I'd say.

The moral reformers began the class warfare. I know what she said. The progressive Chrisians and eugenicists destroyed my country with their "sound advice". Why must I pay for the sins of alcoholics with my freedom?


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[shramiac]

Hah! Having Wayne Swan as Australia's treasurer is a much bigger insult than Gina!

[metatron]

Hah! Having Wayne Swan as Australia's treasurer is a much bigger insult than Gina!

Yer, I'll agree with you 1000% on that. Wayne Swan is basically a piece of shit with two eyes attached to it. Clueless garbage.