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Executives at chrysalis lol..it's there job to promote the record. My dad actually worked for chrysalis and about 6 other labels and they have writers to make up lies about the bands. Show the link to gold please and stop calling me a liar Sure! This makes as much sense as a kid who says his dad is...

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No that's a promo . Not an official single .a single is something marketed to radio and then hopefully you like it and buy it in the store ..not a promotional sneak peak It's not for sale . Even if it was the point still stands ..it's didn't chart at all or get radio play . Take it up with RADIO AN...

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So you were only 10 at the time and claim you watched MTV all the time and only saw it 3X's Maybe he had an older brother or two who got him into hard rock early? I did! My older bro is 12 years older than me and his musical choices when I was 10-11 influenced what I listened to! so according to yo...

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doublev2 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:53 pm https://www.discogs.com/release/6763685 ... s-To-Ashes

This is a sneak peak pre release promo not a single so try again

That's the "Ashes To Ashes" 12" Vinyl, 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single

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doublev2 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:52 pm And how many did it sell ? And where was it number 9 in radio charts?

Can you not read? I said Radio and Records New Artists and gave that weeks reports of the Ashes single being played.

You are just upset you are a 3 Dog Night Song that starts with an L

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Look at the official certification from billboard .. zero . So why you arguing Are you that dense? Nobody has said it was certified. And I went into KISS' albums etc. And I also listed and asked you who at Chrysalis would have any reason to have them certified? Of course you can't answer that. I br...

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You need to back up what you say when you call me a liar Show direct link to radio play of Ashes to Ashes. It's impossible it was correct . There was no play. Its possible a small station played it and reported it as number 9 but official radio play ..show the link please I don't need to show more....

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Fisrly not one Not one vvi single broke into to 200 . Not one including boyz are gonna rock. Secondly radio only playsed official singles unless a specialist station back then. Ashes to ashes medley was not an official single release with a 7 inch release . How can an album go gold with zero charti...

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Show direct link to radio play of Ashes to Ashes. It's impossible it was correct . There was no play. Its possible a small station played it and reported it as number 9 but official radio play ..show the link please I don't need to show more. I've already proved you wrong. You didn't even know abou...

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Also look at billboard sales for fist vvi album..not a fast selling album. Only peaked at 64. Not a hit. Again, relying on Billboard which was highly inaccurate. And regardless of the terrible accuracy- how many weeks was it on the charts with only 1 video? For KISS to be on the charts that long fo...

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doublev2 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:23 pm Ashes to Ashes as far as I know wasn't a single so how did radio play it ?

You don't know jack, that's why you don't know.

You mean the "Ashes To Ashes" 12" with the "ASG Medly" with it?

You probably never saw one of those either.

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But no gold And I would like to see some real billboard link from vv archives who tells everyone everything I say is a lie... so show me the link. I can't believe this guy is allowed on here but as long as he is show the evidence And who was going to have it certified? Obviously you have no idea ho...

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Yeah, that's (sadly) not impressive. Make no mistake, noboby here is glad about the failure of any Vinnie project but facts are facts. ASG should have been a huge seller, same as the first album, but it wasn't to be. Yes, facts are the facts. Vinnie's Invasion was right below gold before Invasion w...

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Direct link to billboard ASG Sales please You will find also zero radio play for ASG singles It wasn't in Billboard. But of course Billboard did carry the direct quotes from the executives at Chrysalis and gave alot of credit to VVI and its fans to breaking Slaughter. Those direct quotes have been ...

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doublev2 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:59 pm Yngwie's odyssey album in charts at same time and peaked at 40 and didn't certify gold. Also yngeie headlining much bigger venues

Everyone knows Billboard charts were completely screwed up and not that worthwhile. Hence, the need for Soundscan.

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@VVArchives , what happened with Kingdom Come's video by and why did it affect Ashes to Ashes? I was a fan back then, but I was only 10-11 in 1988, so a lot of stuff that happened around that time went right over my head. I do remember every metal magazine at the time pushing the shit out of Kingdo...

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Thank you for this, that is seriously funny. We got your back as 99% of us feel the same. It is sometimes hard to stay balanced with the praise and criticism of Vinnie but we try. The truth is Vinnie deserves both............... You prefer people making stuff up instead of dealing with reality? Now...

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All Systems go no way even close sold 500 thousand ever..Even now . That would certify it gold and it never did..mark said in one of his last interviews in vvi that he had hoped the album would go gold. This is after the video. You are basically saying all systems go went gold in less than a month ...

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I would say that still qualifies. Literally couldn't happen much later, when so much is at stake you need your I's dotted and your T's crossed. KISS could not decide on a new member in November and then go on tour in December. You gotta pick the guy, work out the makeup, design the costume, have se...

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W.A.S.P.'s BLACKIE LAWLESS Looks Back On HEAR 'N AID's 'Stars': 'If Anybody Had An Ego In There, They Didn't Show It'

https://blabbermouth.net/news/w-a-s-p-s ... nt-show-it

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Some act like the new characters (The Fox and the Wiz) didn't help the band. Was that really the case? All 4 originals were around for Dynasty. A tour that lost millions. When Unmasked came out, they were still "pretending" all 4 were there. They couldn't tour the US at all. And from label documents...

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‘Spinning Gold’ Trailer Chronicles the Rise of Casablanca Records See Wiz Khalifa play George Clinton and Tayla Parx as Donna Summer in fictionalized retelling of story behind Neil Bogart's Seventies hits-making label https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/spinning-gold-casablanca-records-tra...

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Back on the Streets is cool but not "makes Exciter pale in comparison" cool, LoL....The whole LIU album is great, I wouldn't want to lose a song, so as an additional 11th song I would be able to accept BOTS. :D I could easily lose the 1 song Vinnie didn't have a hand in on LIU, the dreadful "Dance ...

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Julian Gill finally actually corrected someone with the truth for once. They acted like KISS didn't want Vinnie. They were forced to take him because of the tour and so much other nonsense. That might make sense if he was hired in early December. But he was hired in September (as JG pointed out to t...

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I would wager that Bruce's favourite album would be Carnival Of Souls, which met an untimely fate of course, and wasn't true to the KISS vibe, but like Ace in the Dynaysty Unmasked era, he wasn't going to complain too much at having more songs on the album, regardless of the direction. Things went ...

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I Wanna Live is a great song for sure. Very different.............. Yep and that one didn't leak out at all. It was pretty much a surprise on The Vault. No telling how many great songs Vinnie and Gene had since Gene said they at least wrote 10 together for Revenge. If they had been smart enough to ...

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Where did Eric carr say that ? Also Vinnie wouldn't sing the demo as he wasn't in kiss unless he was demoing it for the other members . Has anyone got a link to anyone actually saying kiss even recorded back on streets other than rumors? That is criminal we were denied so many great Vinnie demos an...

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Why would kiss put any Vinnie demos seen as be constant sued them and bad mouthed them . Vinnie wouldn't put a mark slaughter demo on a new version of all systems go would he ? And mark hardly ever bad mouthed Vinnie He only sued them because they ripped him off millions. KISS gets to hide behind l...

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ACK wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:46 pm what about vinnies box set. anyone done a change for that. there is also one that i signed to make sirius xm hair nation play steel panther.

I'm sure that will make Sirius/XM get right on it.

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Here's a petition for those poor people who didn't get anything for their VIP packages. https://www.change.org/p/kiss-ripped-us-off?redirect=false I'm not sure how this works in the back end but it is appalling that these people paid so much and have gotten nothing. This needs to be fixed. Its neve...

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pullitt wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:37 pm Well I think that's a stretch. We don't live in the internet. Maybe Vinnie does, but online murder of posts doesn't translate to real life. Granted I post every so often, but I enjoy my real world time.

Thank you for saying that!

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So out of all those Bruce songs you mentioned during his time in the band. Up to 1995. How many were concert staples? How many were music videos? How many released as singles? Bruce couldn't deliver the good at all. He was someone who had no stage presence and someone who wouldn't rock Gene or Paul'...

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Odd how you would try and act like Bruce had much of anything to do with those crappy songs that KISS ignored from Asylum. Once again, Bruce was 1 of 3. He certainly wasn't leading the songwriting ship at all. He was along for the ride. Then when it came time for Crazy Flop I'll Fight Hell - 1 of 3 ...

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Did you draw that in High School? Yeah, I did it for the board meeting back when I was in HS! Yep, that's it KISS Album Sales 1977-1981 Board Meeting Presentation Hand Created Bar Graph from December 1981 that measures 28.75" x 20" and was done on thick board along with coinciding KISS Album Sales ...

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I'm going to call BS on "all these demos". This isn't just an attack on Vinnie but on a lot of bands, especially KISS! What do lots of bands (ESPECIALLY KISS) say, "we took 40 songs into the studio and picked the best 10 for the album". Well, what did the CoTN boxset give us? A handful of half fini...

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That version sux ass compared to the LIU version. Pauls' vocal "riffing" at the end is hideous. The breakdown into the chorus sounds messy and makes the chorus seem rushed. Alot of people certainly disagree with that. They prefer it in the original form in the demo from 1982. The solo was better on...

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I don't think Bruce should have ever been in the band. I think that was their downfall. Bruce lacked any set of balls. He pretty much admits it. He sure wasn't going to stand up to Gene or Paul one bit. He wouldn't even stand up as they treated Eric Carr like shit. Yes, Bruce did have 9 songs on KIS...

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Dynasty's numbers are bad

Unmasked barely managed 450,000 or so.

The Elder is interesting because after returns its been said it only did 150,000. But it sure tanked.

Sure a great thing Vinnie came along to save their butts.....

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Yeah, that's been Paul for at least 10 years. It is surprising he keeps it up, saying what he says about others, but we're not him, so his reasons are his own. The legacy is shot but I guess that doesn't matter. So you're fine with them committing fraud for at least the past 10 years? That's nice t...

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KISS should have been smart enough to do the first video for the best song off COTN.

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https://swedenrockmagazine.com/srm-112022/628

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Its so funny thinking about Gene's lies. The lies about him telling Vinnie what to play etc. Give me a break Gene. Gene is so full of shit! Sadly, some VInnie haters believe every damn lie he says. After Vinnie saved KISS butt with COTN & LICK IT UP.... being the musical driving force... who did KIS...

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Was Nazi Germany a positive place for Jewish people? Think of it like that, it was absolute crap, the worst. Wow, comparing VInnie to Nazis. Was Vinnie murdering people? Was Vinnie rounding up people? I guess some parts of the world haven't learned how offensive and morally wrong it is to use horri...

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https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200/ #112 on the charts Now its been on the charts for 20 weeks! Thank goodness for the V-Meister saving KISS! Of course that blows away their last 2 albums prior to it. Unmasked could only manage 14 weeks The horrific "The Elder" a lousy 11 weeks! If only ...

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https://youtu.be/c4LcPlNrI38 For some reason, they weren't in Tokyo recently and the results were horrendous! They should have hung it up years ago. Probably everyone on this board could sound better than Paul. If they had not been committing fraud against all their ticket buyers for years, nobody w...

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???? Your favorite poster did another whopper in the last 24 hours acting like the only reason VVI got coverage (and positive coverage) is because all the ads placed in the magazine for VVI. Maybe I should call that guy BK from now on. Because he is the home of the WHOPPER. Burger King for those wh...

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So you have no idea talking about Julien or others, Vinnie was out of control. At least it was probably a positive place for Vinnie fans. Unlike a bunch of Vinnie haters smearing him constantly on this site. Of course all the real fans are gone from here because its just a Vinnie bashing place for ...

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I love Vinnie but no way saved kiss . He was a session player on creatures . How many session players get 6 of their songs recorded for the album? How many session players write 10 or more songs for the album? Who was playing on all those demos? Why did Gene and Paul leave off so many of the Vinnie...

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Hey Zach what do you think of the COTN Box Set?

I was shocked to see a poster here say recently more Vinnie fans like the KISSFAQ because of how Julian hates free speech.

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